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Toll's Rock-Bottom Mortgage Rate Could Ripple Across Sector
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 22, 2009

Posted on 01/22/2009 7:53:45 AM PST by Lorianne

Toll Brothers (TOL) just lowered the bar for the home building industry.

Horsham, Penn.-based Toll this week started offering a 3.99% fixed mortgage rate for loans $417,000 or below for 30 years with no points, one of - if not the - industry's lowest rates, one well below the national average of just below 5%.

It's too early to say if other builders will copy the attention-grabbing rate, but as the market worsens, competition is fierce and this move could launch a scramble to match [rates]

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: economy; homebuilders; interestrates; mortgage; realestate
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1 posted on 01/22/2009 7:53:46 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123259465468105115.html


2 posted on 01/22/2009 7:54:40 AM PST by Lorianne (People who do not own their homes outright are mortgage-owners, not homeowners.)
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To: Lorianne
I love the smell of market correction in the morning. This is the second story I have seen underlining how the housing market is very very busy fixing itself.

What a disaster it will be for Obama if this glitch on the economic screen just passes away in a few months, but the GOP needs to be on record predicting that, or they pass the credit to the socialists.

3 posted on 01/22/2009 8:06:47 AM PST by 1-Eagle (Visit the American Conservative Channel on Justin.tv and help us educate a few minds.)
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To: Lorianne
Horsham, Penn.-based Toll this week started offering a 3.99% fixed mortgage rate for loans $417,000 or below for 30 years with no points, one of - if not the - industry's lowest rates, one well below the national average of just below 5%.

The national average is 5% with no points? Boy, it sure isn't where I live.

4 posted on 01/22/2009 8:06:55 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: jennyjenny

My co-worker re-fied at 4.5% last week.I’m waiting on .5%.


5 posted on 01/22/2009 8:09:02 AM PST by quack ("Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.")
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To: roscommon

*Ping*


6 posted on 01/22/2009 8:09:11 AM PST by The KG9 Kid (e,)
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To: The KG9 Kid

ping


7 posted on 01/22/2009 8:12:09 AM PST by DeLaine ($150 million for an inauguration?! Is he really America's economic solution??)
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To: jennyjenny

Yes, it is actually just under 5% for a conforming 30 year fixed loan, no points.

Bernanke has been buying agency paper to get the rate down.


8 posted on 01/22/2009 8:36:31 AM PST by NVDave
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To: Lorianne

Is anyone taking on a 417K loan these days? MAybe a few.

With the population aging and the number of DINKs, you would think builders would focus on the “Sun City” model of home
2 Br, 2 Ba and a larger living room or kitchen, overall - a small house on a no-maintenance lot.

But, I guess they know their market.


9 posted on 01/22/2009 8:48:20 AM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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To: Lorianne

I assume you must have picture-perfect credit to take such a loan.


10 posted on 01/22/2009 9:03:58 AM PST by montag813 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: NVDave

That’s interesting. I’ve checked 4 different companies rates in my area and the best today is 5.75% with no points or origination fees, very high credit scores and 30% down.


11 posted on 01/22/2009 9:21:22 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: jennyjenny

Ahhh... there was one thing I forgot to ask: what area of the country is the subject property?


12 posted on 01/22/2009 9:27:14 AM PST by NVDave
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To: jennyjenny
I just got off the phone with a broker I usually work with. Rates just recently went up but are going to drop again. Wait.

13 posted on 01/22/2009 9:47:15 AM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: quack

I have a five year adjustable rate mortgage that is currently at 5.54%. It adjusts at the end of July to 3% over the weekly average yield on the US Treasury Securities adjusted to a constant maturity of 5 years. If it were to adjust right now it would go down to 4.50% (it is rounded to the nearest 0.125%).


14 posted on 01/22/2009 10:02:14 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: 1-Eagle

The housing market can’t fix itself until it does something about requiring 80% LTV ratios before someone can refinance.

Suddenly concerned about best practices for underwriting, mortgage companies could still use standards that made sure only the most qualified borrowers could refi into these loan rates (and thus free up cash that might help the economy and would certainly help confidence rates).

Right now you can good income, a sterling credit rating, a nice home, but the tremendous drop in home values keeps you paying at way-above market rates. This penalizes the good customer. Which is extremely dumb.


15 posted on 01/22/2009 11:08:51 AM PST by fightinJAG (Good riddance, UAW.)
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To: Lorianne

From what I’ve heard, Toll doesn’t build houses that can be paid for with a $417,000 mortgage.

Toll Brothers is a “luxury home” builder.

A 20% downpayment and a $417,000 mortgage will get you a $520,000 house, ignoring closing costs and fees.

I’m not sure Toll builds many houses that cost less than $520,000.

Is this in any way meaningful?


16 posted on 01/22/2009 12:06:25 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: fightinJAG
well i was reading this post which seems to indicate the sharp drop in prices is leading to some housing sales. The smart money knows what goes down, goes back up again, even if it takes a year or so. If a lot of these houses sell... the prices start going back up, etc., and everything is back to normal.

Then again, I'm looking for any good news I can, especially with the housing market.

17 posted on 01/22/2009 1:41:00 PM PST by 1-Eagle (Visit the American Conservative Channel on Justin.tv and help us educate a few minds.)
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