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Jurist (R. Bork) predicts ‘terrible conflict’ will endanger U.S. Catholics’ religious freedom
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Posted on 01/21/2009 4:46:45 AM PST by fabrizio

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To: Le Chien Rouge

> I fear that one day soon, just being a Christian will be
> labeled as a hate crime........

Revelation 6:9

Revelation 13:1-ff


21 posted on 01/21/2009 5:47:17 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: fabrizio

> When asked whether a nihilistic society can remain “happy-
> go-lucky” for long, Judge Bork replied:

A nihilist society will be annihilated.

It just stands to reason.


22 posted on 01/21/2009 5:48:39 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Canedawg

In a nutshell kudos


23 posted on 01/21/2009 5:53:53 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: umgud
This has already started with the CA marriage proposition. BTW, this is far more than just a Catholic problem.

I agree. On this one I believe you have a holy allience between we Baptist and the Catholics.

24 posted on 01/21/2009 6:01:07 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: blessu

The DEMOCRAT Catholic voters elected Obama.


25 posted on 01/21/2009 6:03:08 AM PST by anoldafvet
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

**It is an outrage the Justice Bork is not the deciding vote on the USSC.**

Ditto, and a severe price we will pay for at least another generation.

Last time the damn government tried pushing a Catholic Service, The Catholics CLOSED IT.. YO, BARRY ... you want HUNDREDS of HOSPITALS TO CLOSE.

To many, BARRY, OUR FAITH is more Important to US than ...YOUR GOVERNMENT, and many will die to PROVE IT


26 posted on 01/21/2009 6:03:34 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's "1984" .. to Conservatives - a WARNING, to Liberals - a TEXTBOOK)
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To: Venturer

I agree and IMO this is the impetus behind the gay marriage issue.


27 posted on 01/21/2009 6:05:48 AM PST by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Retired COB

And the Mormons.


28 posted on 01/21/2009 6:07:03 AM PST by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Venturer
A suit to force a catholic hospital to perform abortion is not a suit for the purpose of having another place to get abortions ,but is a suit to in effect destroy Catholicism.

Quite so.

There's a principle at stake. After 30-some years of Roe v Wade, the abortionists are distressed by the fact that there are still holdouts who refuse to go along. Pockets of resistance are still to be found and must be eliminated.

29 posted on 01/21/2009 6:14:26 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future"- Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: fabrizio

Absolutely right on.

And not just the Catholics, the evangelicals and the Mormons and the Orthodox Jews.

With Christianity under attack as it has not been for over 200 years you can count on the “leadership” of the so-called mainline denominations only to be concerned with advancing the homosexual agenda.


30 posted on 01/21/2009 6:17:07 AM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: livius
I think the Bishops will stay strong.

Does the Church own the buildings? and if so under what sort of arrangment does the board operate?

Sadly many Catholics disparage the Church's teachings on abortion as well as homosexuality otherwise this would not be an issue and Obama would not be President.

Mel

31 posted on 01/21/2009 6:20:47 AM PST by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: fabrizio

While I am not a Catholic, I am a part of the Body of Christ universal. And, our Heavenly Father told us there’d be days like this....


32 posted on 01/21/2009 6:23:36 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: fabrizio

Imagine this after-inaugural litter as coming abortions...

33 posted on 01/21/2009 6:32:55 AM PST by polymuser (Bye, bye Miss American Pie.)
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To: blessu
The Catholic voters elected Obama.

Secular Catholics voted for Obama. The church-going types (i.e., the real Catholics) did not.
34 posted on 01/21/2009 6:38:28 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: blessu
and a lot of Catholics voted against him.

Also a lot of other “Christians”
from other denominations (Not a thread to go into the true Church so RCCers bear with me) voted for Obama and against him as well.

Message, there are a lot of seriously screwed up supposed followers of Christ voting for poverty solutions that always fail due to the poor succumbing to perpetual dependency of the State than standing up to the most basic right of all, life and due process to life.

35 posted on 01/21/2009 6:41:45 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: fabrizio
Now, it’s a funny situation in which the moral life of a nation is in effect decided by one judge

Yes, one might even call it TYRANNY.

36 posted on 01/21/2009 6:42:06 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: fabrizio

It isn’t just the Catholic hospitals that are going to have a problem, it is also Catholic doctors. The Liberals want to force Catholic doctors to perform abortions or relinquish their licenses. These are sad times and Catholic Democrats are so blind and so brain washed that they don’t know nor care about what they have done by voting in another Democrat as President. They only remember “Kennedy.”


37 posted on 01/21/2009 6:44:45 AM PST by mia
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To: Antoninus
The church-going types (i.e., the real Catholics) did not.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

46% of Catholics who attend Mass regularly voted for Obama.

Too many leaders in our Christian churches ( Catholic and Protestant) preach the religion of Liberation Theology and worship Karl Marx instead of God. So?...When the Marxist Obama comes along is it any wonder that too many confuse him with God and voted for him?

38 posted on 01/21/2009 6:49:35 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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“You are going to get Catholic hospitals that are going to be required as a matter of law to perform abortions,”

I cannot see this occurring without the Catholics divesting themselves from these hospitals. If this were attempted it'd surely end up at the Supreme Court. If a public clash between the Obama White House and the Catholic Church came about what would this portend for the 2012 election? Papa Benedict XVI surely would not sit still for this, making his and the Vatican's viewpoint heard loudly.

On another point, can Obama be any more of a blatant hypocrite? He calls for inclusiveness and nondiscrimination yet wishes to dictate to private hospitals what their policies should be.

39 posted on 01/21/2009 6:56:22 AM PST by jla (Sarah! 45)
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He calls for inclusiveness and nondiscrimination yet wishes to dictate to private hospitals what their policies should be.

Remember that these are just words that liberals use as masks. When they say inclusiveness and nondiscrimination it means inclusion in their positions and nondiscrimination against individuals and groups they specify. Everything else is fair game for discrimination. It is not self-consistent and therefore patently illogical and absurd, but then again these are liberals we're talking about.

40 posted on 01/21/2009 7:02:18 AM PST by chimera
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