Posted on 01/15/2009 10:32:08 AM PST by Publius
Over the past few weeks, Ayn Rands classic, Atlas Shrugged, has been mentioned in articles in the Wall Street Journal and among conservative and libertarian bloggers. Two questions are being debated by those who have read the book.
Besides those who have read the book, there are FReepers with little awareness of Rand and her work. Some are turned off by the length of her works of fiction. Some of a more religious bent have problems with Rands atheism. Some wish she had left the few sex scenes out. Some just think shes a bad writer.
I would like to propose our first FReeper Book Club effort: A chance for a group of us to read Atlas Shrugged together, both old hands and newcomers to the book. Once this effort settles in, I or others might want to start FReeper Book Clubs dedicated to Forrest McDonalds States Rights and the Union, or Alexis de Toquevilles Democracy in America. I like the idea of an interleaved reading of both the Federalist Papers and Anti-Federalist Papers together in strict chronological order so as to see the point and counterpoint of the debate over the Constitution. Ive picked Atlas Shrugged for starters because its a hot topic and its fun. Once we get into the habit of reading and discussing together, we can tackle the heavier stuff.
The book is divided into 30 chapters. I propose to post a thread on one chapter every Saturday, which would make 30 threads over a period of 30 weeks to cover the entire book. Ill provide a short synopsis of the chapter, expound on certain themes and raise questions to stimulate debate. If FReeper Book Club members feel that a faster pace is better, we can settle on one.
Atlas and Me
I came to Atlas Shrugged via the usual method: I read it in high school. The bully who sat behind me and enjoyed pounding me at the Catholic prep school I attended in New Jersey exposed me to the book by hitting me on the head with it. Its weight made an immediate impression. Our sophomore English teacher was not teaching the book, and he suggested that the bully pound me with something of lesser weight, such as The Red Badge of Courage.
The English teacher panned the book, stating that it was the kind of book an immature person might enjoy, but a mature adult with experience of the world could not take Rand seriously. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were not realistic.
The vice principal, a priest from Brooklyn who believed in FDR, JFK, LBJ and God, in that order, excoriated Rand for writing an anti-Christian epic and broadly hinted that the bully was sinning by reading it. Better to hit someone over the head with it. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were evil.
I read the book anyway.
The Strange World of Atlas Shrugged
Rands book was written between 1945 and 1956 and published in 1957. During the postwar years, America saw massive changes in society and technology, and the shape of world politics shifted mightily. None of this is reflected in the book. Some of the differences between Rands world and our own are rather egregious and require comment.
The easiest way to explain these anomalies is to say that Rand lacked the scientific background to project technological change and simply dealt with the technology of her era while projecting political change. But then how did she project the use of ultrasound for Project Xylophone and the holographic projection that protected Galts Gulch? There is a strange mix of the old and the new. What marks a total departure from our reality is the change in politics and in the American character.
One can accept all this as artists license, but I tried to come up with my own logic for how Rands America came to this pass.
Alternative History: Trying the Harry Turtledove Approach
If one wanted to create an alternative history for the universe of Atlas Shrugged, one could start with the 4-way election of 1948. In this alternative history, Henry Wallace won the race, defeating Truman, Dewey and Thurmond, establishing a Labor government on the British model in America. The warning voices of Martin Dies, John Bricker, Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon were stilled.
Wallace wanted no cold war with the Soviets, and with the quick withdrawal of American forces from Europe, Germany was reunified under a communist Peoples State government. The Soviet Union, now the Peoples State of Russia, never geared up for war, settling instead for passive mediocrity. Britain never rejected Clement Atlee, and with the abolition of the monarchy and the establishment of a written constitution on the German model, the Peoples State of England replaced the United Kingdom. In France, De Gaulle never came to power, and the Fourth Republic morphed into the Peoples State of France.
In the Western Hemisphere, figures similar to Fidel Castro established the Peoples State of Mexico and other communist countries in Central and South America.
America did not go all the way to Peoples State status, however, although intellectuals worked hard toward that end. Instead, America became a gray, downtrodden country accepting an atmosphere of sad decay, much like England today. Americans accepted that things were hopeless and that nothing could be done. Feelings replaced facts. The very nature of reality was questioned.
It took only a decade of economic stasis, misguided politics and cultural pollution to create the hell described by Rand.
Some Thoughts on the Movie
A scriptwriter would have a hard time shrinking the story to fill a two or three hour time slot even if all the long speeches were eliminated. A miniseries for television would have served the book better.
This effort would be a production designers dream. I would point to John Vallone, who handled production design for Walter Hills 1984 classic, Streets of Fire. Vallone created a fascinating mix of Fifties and Eighties that had no parallel in real time. Something in the same vein would make the movie memorable, rather than setting it in the present or a future that looks like the present.
Lets Get Started
I will build a ping list for our FReeper Book Club, so sign in on this thread. Ill use the keyword freeperbookclub to mark these threads as they are posted.
Welcome to our first effort. Prepare to read and discuss.
Ugh. Of all people...for one, I can't stand Angelina, and she's just not how I pictured Dagny. There have been many debates on FR before, on which actor should be cast for each role in the book.
Please add me to the ping list. Atlas Shrugged is one of my favorite books. I’ve been saying for the last couple of years that we’re living it.
I remember Rand saying that having a child is like being in slavery for 18 years. She was a gifted writer, but I’m glad she wasn’t my mom.
Please sign me up. After all the discussions on FR I bought a copy around Christmas, but haven’t had time to begin reading it. Someone donated about 1/2 case of brand new copies to our group(Friends of the Library)which we sold in our book sale.
A few years back we had another copy of Atlas Shrugged donated. It turned out to be a first edition, first printing of the book signed by the author. We contacted an auction house in CA which agreed to auction it off. They figured it might sell for about $1200. It sold for $6000! Our group made over $5000 on it. Someone obviously placed great value on it. I’m anxious to start reading it.
Atlas Shrugged PING!
Not that it would appeal to many who are grounded in logic, but the other novel I re-read from time to time is Taylor Caldwell's, “The Listener”. A wonderful gift on my 17th birthday from my mother. Books were always given in my family at Christmas, together with slippers, robes and a good nightgown (in case you had to go to the hospital) — ;-)
I second that. In fact, hubby swears it's a chick flick in book form, but I think he does that to irritate me, because he knows I loathe chick flicks.
This is great timing. I just bought Atlas Shrugged yesterday.
Nam Vet
Count me in. I Read it again recently and for some reason made notes in the margins.
My son (12y/o) is reading it now. He is nearly finished with it but I think he might enjoy the discussion here. I’ll tune him in to this thread. He probably does not get much of the historical references and context, he’d probably get a better understanding from a discussion like this.
put me on the list...I love the book, and the 12 hour abridged audio book is pretty true for those freepers that commute or travel a lot...
I always cast my books while reading them. I can then play it out inside my mind.
I too picked Antonio Bandaras as Frisco.
Russell Crowe as John Galt
Mel Gibson as Rearden
Wayne Knight as Eddie
Me as Dagny, of course...
Bette Davis would have made a great Dagny
Rutger Hauer as Ragnar Danneskjöld
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LOL!
might be of interest to the Rand ping list!
count me in.
>>>I loathe chick flicks.
Glad I am not alone. They are like throwing away 2 hours of your life not to mention the money. HATE THEM.
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