Keep pushing until America wakes up...
Posted on 01/12/2009 9:26:05 PM PST by correctthought
HR 45, gun licensing act, 1/6/09
To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.
Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.
Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act; (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or (5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.
Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act.
Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.
Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems.
Over half of the population voted for Obama which is proof that the American spirit that made this country is severely depleted.
They will comply out of fear, after a few are ruined and made examples of. The remaining “Republicans” are a complete joke and will lay down like sled dogs.
There is some good and some bad coming through the House right now. I read the texts of HR17, HR45, and HR197, and composed the following note to Rep. Defazio (a Dem, but not beyond redemption in the whole sphere of gun rights).:
H.R.17 : To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense...
This is a simple, common sense piece of legislation and I urge you to sign on and actively support it.
H.R.45 : To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system...
This proposal has so many flaws it would take too much space to describe all of them in a short note, so I'll make a couple broad generalizations:
It places many undue burdens on law abiding citizens that would, as usual, not be endured by criminals, and so it would not likely protect one future “Blair Holt”. This is not just a cynical position, history bears it out.
Almost every part of it interferes in some way with legitimate state powers and/or individual rights. Where any provision of it could possibly be deemed good and proper, it would be more appropriately addressed through state law.
It would be nearly impossible to make this legislation palatable in any way through amendments.
I urge you to actively oppose it.
H.R.197: National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2009
In general, I am opposed to requirements for “permits” to carry concealed weapons, even on a “shall issue” basis. Anyone who legally owns firearms substantially meets the requirements for a permit in most states and oughtn't be burdened with further paperwork and fees. But since some states don't recognize a universal right to carry concealed (as much as I believe it exists), I believe it's in the national interest to have some uniformity in carrying requirements for folks traveling across state lines. This legislation is simple to understand and straightforward as written, and would be a step in the right direction.
I urge you to sign on and actively support this legislation.
I'm looking forward to hearing what you intend to do with regard to these particular bills.
Thank you,
David xxxxxx
I’ve been saying that since I signed up here.
too bad the GOP has decided not even to try fighting O and his dupes. Cardcheck, higher taxes, multi-trillion handouts to friends of O.... nothing can stop them now
Well, we’ll have some advanced warning, at least -
they know they can’t do something like that without confiscating firearms first,
and that will be the notice that they intend to attack soon thereafter - ie, it will be a declaration of war.
It is interesting that you mentioed John Muhhamed. I have said from the beginning that he and his murderous little sidekick were the forst to bring jihad into America. It is also interesting that the government and the media never even mentioned that fact.
Sure, they said that these two monsters were Muslim, but they did not connect them to the jihadist attacks taking place around the globe. I do know that if the job of the government is to protect America’s citizens, it has demonstrated a very peculiar approach to that task.
It has taken almost fifty years for the schools and universities to dumb down and indoctrinate Americans into the kind of morons who would vote to put Barack Obama in the White House. No administration, Democrat or Republican, has done anything to change the educational system. WHY?
Personally I think our government and the process by which it is formed are beyond broken. IMO there is no way to fix it through elections. There is simply no viable opposition party to the demrat machine. The RINOs are really democrats and they will not allow conservatives to take it over.If only society had some sort of Reset button.
Keep pushing until America wakes up...
Have you read any post-apocalyptic fiction? They have good ideas on how societies can collapse.
Yup. I ended up having to use the advanced search option because I still got error messages back.
That said, that bill is a major danger. The liberals are going to argue that since Heller protects our rights, we no longer have fear of confiscation due to registration as a valid reason to refuse to register.
My own point is that first off, Heller is too new of a precident to really know what it means yet. It hasn’t incorporated the Second Amendment against the states.
Also, it’s my opinon that you register felons and child molesters, not law abiding citizens. More to the point, by imposing registration, we’re essentially establishing a poll tax, and if memory serves, Mr. Justice Warren’s court banned those. A license legally implies a privildege, which can be extended and withdrawn at whim. A right, in contrast, is inalienable and cannot be violated.
And that’s a problem. When Mr. Roberts court wrote Heller, they muddied the water as to whether the Second is a right or rather has been downgraded without an Ammendment, to a priviledge.
Given that, it seems to me that any acquiesence to registration is suicidal because we can’t be sure just what Heller does mean as yet. And until we know, it seems to me that we should operate as though that precident had never occurred because if it’s been downgraded to the status of a priviledge, they can still use that law to impose a prior restraint on the exercise of our rights.
And given ATF’s continual violation of the law, like taking all of those 4473s from gun dealers that they’ve put out of business and establishing a computer database of them, this bill is a mortal threat to us.
I want to see some more Supreme Court cases and a lot more lower court cases before I’d ever consider registration of any sort to be innocuous.
In short, regardless of what LaPierre’s wet index finger tells him, we should treat this the same way that we’d treat a bill that proposes outright confiscation.
Bottom line? Whether we own guns and which ones, are none of the Feds business and Mr. Rush, the Congressman from the Black Panthers, needs to be handed his head in a sack.
A minority rose up and defied King George. It'll be a minority this time too.
All we need is 10% to "reset" the Constitution and our Republic.
There, fixed that for you.
It does.
I’m a strong 2A supporter. You misunderstood my post. It was sarcasm and a warning. We came for the guns and powder in April of 1775. They lost.
MOLON LABE!
Good points. People forget the sacrifices made and the risk our patriot ancestors took while engaging in armed revolution. Who among us will take that risk today to preserve our birthright?
Correction: THEY came for our guns and powder in April of 1775 and they LOST!
Unless I really screwed my math up, that's 8%.
Right now, we have an estimated 80 million gun owners in a population of 320 million. 25% of us own firearms. If only 1 in 10 of us "stand up" that's a distributed army of 8 million already armed to the teeth.
I like our odds.
The ball goes up, I'm there.
"A man’s natural rights are his own, against the whole world; and any infringement of them is equally a crime, whether committed by one man, or by millions; whether committed by one man, calling himself a robber, (or any other name indicating his true character,) or by millions, calling themselves a government." — Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority (1867)
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.