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Gold Sinks Through "Major Support" as Zero-Yielding Currencies Rise
The Bullion Vault ^ | 12 Jan '09 | Adrian Ash

Posted on 01/12/2009 10:52:06 AM PST by An Old Man

Gold Sinks Through "Major Support" as Zero-Yielding Currencies Rise; Physical Trading Jumps on "Safe Haven" Bid - Monday 12th January 2009

Spot Gold prices sank Monday lunchtime in London, dropping $20 in 20 minutes to trade at $825 an ounce as world stock markets fell across the board.

Crude oil tumbled 5% to $38.85 per barrel, while government bond prices also dropped.

The zero-yielding US Dollar and Japanese Yen both rose yet again on the currency markets.

"Gold opened [Monday] at the 100-day moving average and is steadily ticking lower," says a technical note from Mitsui, the precious metals dealer, citing "major support at $830.

"With Japan out on holiday, Spot Gold and silver have been dominated by the Euro dropping below $1.34. It now looks likely to test support at $1.33."

The Gold Price in Euros still dropped 2.2% early Monday, however. Measured against the British Pound, wholesale gold traded 10% below last week's all-time record peak of £612 an ounce.

"Sterling surged last week despite a mounting tide of pessimism," notes Steven Barrow at Standard Bank in London.

"It rose despite another sharp cut in the base rate and some loose talk that the Bank of England could rent out Ben Bernanke’s helicopter to drop pounds on the unsuspecting British public."

How come? Because "with currency markets starved of liquidity, there may be a limited role for 'fundamentals' right now," Barrow suggests. "Currency markets are not functioning normally – a general problem at the moment."

Following a flood of poor economic data, the European Central Bank (ECB) is now expected to join the US, Japan, Switzerland and Britain in slashing its interest rates when it meets this Thursday.

"The ECB has a sad track record of always showing up late to the party," says one economist at ING. But Bank of America forecasts a drop from today's 2.5% target rate to 1.5% by end-March.

Deutsche Bank expects Euro rates of just 0.75% by end-June.

Back in the gold market, meantime, new data released after Friday's close showed the volume of betting on US Gold Futures and options grew yet again last week, rising to stand nearly 18% above mid-Dec.'s 30-month low.


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Is it possible that deflation is making the dollar more valuable? How long can this trend continue before the flood gate opens oer at the treasury.?
1 posted on 01/12/2009 10:52:07 AM PST by An Old Man
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To: An Old Man

B-b-but that guy on TV says........


2 posted on 01/12/2009 11:00:21 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: An Old Man

WHAT DID I SAY?

MSM were pumping for buyers yesterday & day before


3 posted on 01/12/2009 11:00:29 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: An Old Man
It seems to me that half the economists think we're facing deflation, and half the economists think we're facing hyper-inflation.

Seems to me that economics is not a mature science quite yet. No one really knows what's going on. Scary.

4 posted on 01/12/2009 11:01:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: An Old Man

4later


5 posted on 01/12/2009 11:07:34 AM PST by AprilfromTexas
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To: ClearCase_guy
Stay alert, and keep your wheel barrow well oiled, this is going to continue for a while longer. When the flood gates open, you will have all the dollars you can carry.
6 posted on 01/12/2009 11:11:23 AM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: An Old Man

“Gov’t is the only entity that can take a valuable commodity like paper and render it worthless, merely by applying ink” Ludwig Von Mises

Don’t let small changes in gold prices delude you into thinking the USD can remain strong for the long term. When the gov’t starts issuing the TRILLIONS of $ in bonds they will need to finance the deficit for this year and the ‘stimulus’ package, then we will see how strong the US $ is. Fear has chased investors to the ‘safety’ of US currency, but that will not last much longer. Only by virtue of being less bad off the Euro countries and Britain is our currency strong.


7 posted on 01/12/2009 11:13:16 AM PST by milwguy (........)
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To: An Old Man

It won’t last long.

We are experiencing deflation at the moment. The Obamunists are planning actions that will soon turn this into a hyperinflationary mess.

Just as in the Great Depression, the money supply has crashed.

During the Great Depression, the money supply contracted by some 30%.
Right now it has done at least the same. How is it possible?
Credit markets have evaporated. Doubt that credit is money? Look in your wallet. That plastic did not exist during the last Depression. A lot of it is gone forever.

You cannot fix systemically broken credit markets, you need to replace that component of the money supply with real cash in a situation like this. The result will be hyperinflationary.

That will be just to plug the holes. Obama will desperately continue to try to spend his way to prosperity a la FDR. Won’t work.

Hopefully the dope will not last as long as FDR. An adoring press and public gave that buffoon 12 years of fumbling with misguided attempts to ‘cure’ the Great Depression and not once threw the bum out of office. His efforts were disastrous and why he should rightfully be known as the architect of the Great Depression.


8 posted on 01/12/2009 11:13:43 AM PST by Overseez (Chile recovered from the folly of the Marxist Allende, we will recover from Marxist Obamunism.)
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To: An Old Man

Never did trust the gold prices because some man behind the curtain makes the rules.


9 posted on 01/12/2009 11:14:51 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: ClearCase_guy

The study of economics is interesting, but useless.


10 posted on 01/12/2009 11:15:06 AM PST by Boiling Pots (The USA has become one huge pyramid scheme. Thanks George, John, Nancy and Harry.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
A friend of mine who does day trading as a full time job(and is pretty good at it) recently pulled everything out of the market and put it away until some kind of logic returns to the markets. He said that all of the historical trends, pricing of commodities, etc., doesn't make much sense right now as nothing is following a pattern that's been seen. He feels its best to take the safe approach at the moment(essentially stay out of the markets) and I'm inclined to agree.
11 posted on 01/12/2009 11:17:51 AM PST by aegiscg47
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To: ClearCase_guy

no, economy is science, its just theres lots of propaganda out there. The economist who got things wrong have alot of their wealth in stockmarket/real estate. they want everyone to buy again so they could get out


12 posted on 01/12/2009 11:18:19 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Overseez
Doubt that credit is money? Look in your wallet. That plastic did not exist during the last Depression. A lot of it is gone forever.

You cannot fix systemically broken credit markets, you need to replace that component of the money supply with real cash in a situation like this. The result will be hyperinflationary.

Assuming your scenario is correct, and I'm not disputing that it is, just how is "replacing that component of the money supply" even inflationary, let alone hyperinflationary? By your own terms, it's replacing "money" removed from circulation, not in addition to current "money" in circulation.

13 posted on 01/12/2009 11:24:34 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Hi chuck da TV out, I'm not following you? Do you mean that the TV financial shows were pushing PM's yesterday? Were those hawkers advising their viewers to buy physical gold or silver? Please clear up what you are saying to us rubes in the woods. Thank you in advance chuck the tv out! I love your screen name

BTW, at what price should we look to re-enter the gold market? Or, should we avoid any buying at the present time? How can I buy spot gold as the market moves interday?

14 posted on 01/12/2009 11:28:40 AM PST by STD (Time for Linebacker 3)
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To: An Old Man

Never buy Gold on the advice of a man willing to sell you his.


15 posted on 01/12/2009 11:31:18 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
Never buy Gold on the advice of a man willing to sell you his.

Hummmm... You should have posted that earlier. I think I'm in trouble now. :<(

16 posted on 01/12/2009 11:36:18 AM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: STD

yeah, all b*llocks aside, msm often pumps a commodity for buyers just before a big sell.


17 posted on 01/12/2009 11:41:23 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Overseez; milwguy
I think we are all reading from the same page.
18 posted on 01/12/2009 11:42:31 AM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
MSM were pumping for buyers yesterday & day before

That is called advertising. People pay lots of money to get their message out.

Everyday there are people who sell and people who buy. That is what makes the world go round and round.

19 posted on 01/12/2009 11:45:31 AM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: milwguy
Only by virtue of being less bad off the Euro countries and Britain is our currency strong.

Would you say that the whole world is going to go into hyperinflation at once? Who ends up on the top of that heap?

20 posted on 01/12/2009 11:49:37 AM PST by ExGeeEye (COTUS 2A should be the USA's ONLY gun law.)
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