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Obama-Daschle “reform” will cripple American health care
dc examiner ^ | 1/11/09 | Sally C. Pipes

Posted on 01/11/2009 1:37:09 PM PST by george76

Since being ousted from the U.S. Senate in 2004, Daschle has written extensively on health care. His recent book, Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis, might as well be a blueprint for the Obama Administration's position on health reform.

Unfortunately, the Obama-Daschle plan's assumptions are false, its details are alarming, and its results will ultimately be disastrous.

Government reimbursement rates already discourage doctors from accepting patients with government coverage. As the government program slowly becomes the only game in town, what then of physicians? Will they simply accept their fate? We can look to our north for a possible answer.

Canadians have "enjoyed" universal health coverage since the 1970s. They also enjoy the rationing of care. Both drugs and physicians are in short supply.

The governments of each province in Canada establish payment rates for physicians, and they're less than half what their American counterparts earn. Is it any surprise that 11 percent of Canadian-trained doctors pack up their stethoscopes and come to the U.S. to practice medicine?

Because there aren't enough doctors, Canadians must wait in line. Wait times for referrals from primary care physicians to specialists in Canada exceed 18 weeks -- twice what doctors consider clinically acceptable.

Daschle wants the government, not your doctor, to decide what the best treatment is for you. And he somehow equates cost-effectiveness with medical effectiveness.

Daschle wants to create a Federal Health Board (FHB) to make these medical decisions for us. He likens the FHB to the Federal Reserve, describing it as "a quasi-governmental organization" consisting of presidentially-appointed, Senate-approved governors.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bhohealthcare; daschle; healthcare; obama; obamadaschle
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1 posted on 01/11/2009 1:37:10 PM PST by george76
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>>> Wait times for referrals from primary care physicians to specialists in Canada exceed 18 weeks <<<

Last visit to Vancouver Canada I met a lady who was severly gimped up with a bad knee. She had been waiting 6 month for simple orthoscopic surgery (an outpatient procedure) and had just recieved a notice that it would be at least 4 more months before she could be operated on.

As a 72 year old with some health problems, I will fight Socialized Medicine like the plague!! You should too!

2 posted on 01/11/2009 1:42:51 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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I have had a wonderful family doctor for 35 years. Once I said to him that he had a pretty hard job, and he said that the only thing he doesn’t like is the two hours or so of paperwork he has to do every evening after seeing patients all day long. He is over 60, and I am certain, given what he said about the paperwork, that if Obama makes healthcare any more onerous for physicans than it already is, he will retire. That’s what’s going to happen to a WHOLE LOT of physicians in this country. Wait and see.


3 posted on 01/11/2009 1:42:53 PM PST by Irene Adler (')
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To: george76

Without question, health care in America will look violently different in 24 to 36 months. Elections have consequences, and this will be a very painful consequence.

What will be more interesting is the fate of private insurance. Many on the left will be pushing to make private insurance illegal. My guess is the American people won’t bite. But eventually, you’ll end up with a much more “classist” health care system. One in which a sizable percentage of Americans will be stuck with single-payor, government managed and rationed health care. For the wealthier Americans, or people that work in jobs that are highly skilled (and thus highly compensated) probably won’t find much difference in their coverage of tomorrow vs their coverage of today.


4 posted on 01/11/2009 1:45:46 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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If we can’t afford Medicare, how will we pay for an expanded government system?


5 posted on 01/11/2009 1:45:48 PM PST by csmusaret (Congress hasn't got anything right since they declared war on Japan.)
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It’s time to find out for sure if the AARP is a DNC front organization (as I strongly suspect) or will they show a willingness to really pressure these people to provide real solutions, including privatization.


6 posted on 01/11/2009 1:47:58 PM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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Simple rule: I want whatever Federal Health Insurance Plan Daschle has for himself and his family. Or any other democrat in power.

You can safely bet that the democrats’ personal health insurance bears absolutely no relationship to the third world coverage Daschle has planned for us peons.

Another safe bet: The media will put massive lipstick on Daschle’s pet pig, when the time comes to fake the news.


7 posted on 01/11/2009 1:48:11 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: george76
Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev famously used an expression generally translated into English as “We will bury you!” — The Democrats went Yeah!. We will bury the USA in debt, flood the country with stoop labor ignorants and be in charge for life.
8 posted on 01/11/2009 1:50:54 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: csmusaret
If we can’t afford Medicare, how will we pay for an expanded government system?

Just print more money. That's the Bush plan but 0bama is gonna make Bush look like a piker.

9 posted on 01/11/2009 1:51:02 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: FormerACLUmember
You got that right. Hillary will never be seen standing in line at the Chappaqua free clinic. One system for the nobles and another for the serfs.

When the time comes, we need to burn up the Congressional servers, phone and fax lines just as we did during the shamnesty scam two years ago.

10 posted on 01/11/2009 1:57:35 PM PST by Jacquerie (Want to die wallowing in your own filth? Support Obamacare.)
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To: Steamburg

I can’t believe you still have a question about that. The AARP is just another auxilliary to the DNC.


11 posted on 01/11/2009 2:07:16 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: csmusaret

“If we can’t afford Medicare, how will we pay for an expanded government system?”

Yep. That’s the question that no one seems to be asking OR answering.

Pie in the sky.


12 posted on 01/11/2009 2:08:41 PM PST by EEDUDE
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***Simple rule: I want whatever Federal Health Insurance Plan Daschle has for himself and his family. Or any other democrat in power***

Sound great.

Just like “requiring” them to use govt. schools for their kids.

The only thing that is consistent about demoncrats is their hypocrisy.

13 posted on 01/11/2009 2:10:45 PM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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Don't believe Obama and don't believe Daschle. They both want you to pay for others' abortions.

Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."

14 posted on 01/11/2009 2:10:51 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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“When the time comes, we need to burn up the Congressional servers, phone and fax lines just as we did during the shamnesty scam two years ago. “

Can’t we just line them all up against the wall and shoot them? Please?


15 posted on 01/11/2009 2:11:25 PM PST by EEDUDE
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To: george76

Another socialist domino in the march to 0bama’a Utopia.

Put it up there with the domestic security service, trillion dollar deficits, sham foreign policy of appeasement and accommodation, marginalization of the Bill of Rights, and sworn allegiance to the supremacy of the UN.

It ain’t your Mother’s country anymore, Duckie...

Time to refresh the tree of Liberty, IMO.


16 posted on 01/11/2009 2:12:07 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: EEDUDE

The Senate has already held his confirmation hearings. Did any GOP (gutless other party) Senators ask that question?


17 posted on 01/11/2009 2:13:34 PM PST by csmusaret (Congress hasn't got anything right since they declared war on Japan.)
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To: EEDUDE
Can’t we just line them all up against the wall and shoot them? Please?

If only . . .

18 posted on 01/11/2009 2:14:35 PM PST by Jacquerie (Want to die wallowing in your own filth? Support Obamacare.)
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To: Big_Monkey

What do you expect? By destroying manufacturing and shipping good jobs overseas that had benefits, millions lost their health insurance. As has been noted on this forum, Private insurance cost a fortune and as soon as you are ill the insurer jacks up your rates or drops you altogether. Millions of Americans will support national health care...including the unemployed, the underemployed, retirees from Delta and retirees from the big three -who either have lost retiree health care benefits or about to lose such benefits.

You talk about how long it takes to get a procedure in Europe...well my uncle could not get a heart operation at all in Ireland as he was above 60 so I know this is true and worse than you know. What is equally true is if he lived in the US and had no insurance, he would not get such an operation either...unless he was dirt poor and eligible for Medicaid...the uninsured millions are not eligible for Medicaid. If people can’t get what they need no matter what they do to better themselves-feel hopeless...they will turn to the government.

Those of you who bought foreign cars and a variety of foreign goods contributed to this problem...there is no free lunch. One of life’s great ironies is that free trade-a mostly conservative principle (yes, I know Clinton signed NAFTA, but it is more associated with Repubs. than Dems.) destroyed the jobs which stood between us and socialism...conservatives planted the seed of their own destruction.


19 posted on 01/11/2009 2:14:52 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: george76
The difference between a Democracy and a Republic something we seem to have forgotten. Spread this video around.
20 posted on 01/11/2009 2:17:43 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (YOU can get your own Bail Out . . .Dec 18 post at http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com)
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