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I think this guy should get a medal
1 posted on 01/10/2009 4:25:26 PM PST by BBell
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To: BBell

Same here.


2 posted on 01/10/2009 4:29:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: BBell

R.I.P.
3 posted on 01/10/2009 4:30:57 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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An anthropologist has died of burns she got when was set on fire in Afghanistan in an attack that authorities say prompted her fellow contractor, a New Orleans resident, to kill an Afghan man.

This sentence is vague.

4 posted on 01/10/2009 4:31:56 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: BBell

Me too. Something is very wrong with this picture.


5 posted on 01/10/2009 4:33:44 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: BBell

RIP.


6 posted on 01/10/2009 4:33:46 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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Condolences to her fiance, her family, and her friends.

Loyd, 36, remembered for strong-natured will
By Eva Ruth Moravec - Express-News

The second- and third-degree burns that engulfed 60 percent of Paula Loyd’s body persistently got infected and finally claimed the 36-year-old’s life.

In November, Loyd was in Afghanistan as a social scientist for BAE Systems, according to a BAE news release. She was embedded with troops as part of the Human Terrain System program, which pairs social scientists with ground troops to interview citizens of Iraq and Afghanistan and improve relationships.

According to a recent San Antonio Express-News story, Loyd approached a man carrying a fuel jug Nov. 4. Without warning, the man doused Loyd with gasoline and set her on fire. Loyd’s colleague threw her into water and she was airlifted to Brooke Army Medical Center, where she died Wednesday.

“She’s very strong-natured, and we had hope,” said Loyd’s mother, Patricia Ward. “The doctors told us when someone tries as hard as she did, it makes them try harder, too.”

Raised in Alamo Heights, Loyd had tried hard her whole life, her mother said. She attended high school in the Virgin Islands and Connecticut, received degrees at Wellesley College and at Georgetown University, then spent four years on active duty with the U.S. Army in Korea, and four years as a reservist in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

In Afghanistan, she worked for the United Nations, the U.S. Agency for International Development and RTI International before joining BAE last September.

“Paula’s vast experience in Afghan reconstruction efforts, her thorough professionalism and gentle demeanor had a profound impact on the units she supported,” said Ted Wright, acting president of BAE’s Technology Solutions and Services. “She was committed to helping improve conditions in Afghanistan.”

The Moonlight Fund, which supports burn victims in the service and their families, has established an account in Loyd’s name.

“The checks are coming from around the world,” said Celia Jones, co-founder of the fund. “She touched a lot of lives in her short life, and the family would like for her legacy of kindness and caring to carry on.”

While she was at BAMC, Adam Millsap, a childhood friend, organized blood drives that raised a total of 47 pints.

“She always was kind and had a ready smile, she was helpful and a good friend,” Millsap said. “She had people’s best interests at heart.”

PAULA LOYD

BORN: June 9, 1972,

in San Antonio

DIED: Jan. 7, 2009,

in San Antonio

SURVIVED BY:
her mother, Patricia Ward and husband Terrence of St. Thomas; fiance Frank Muggeo of Fort Bragg; brothers Paul B. Loyd Jr. and wife Penny, William M. Loyd and wife Stephanie; sisters Kathryn Machuga and husband Bill, and Polly Lines and husband Marcus.

SERVICES: A celebration of life will begin at 2 p.m. on Jan. 10 at Porter Loring’s North Chapel, 2102 N. Loop 1604 East.


7 posted on 01/10/2009 4:34:21 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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Probably the Afghan went off because it was a woman talking, BUT there is no reason to charge her colleague for avenging the outrage immediately. Afghans do understand that.


9 posted on 01/10/2009 4:37:14 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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This is such a POORLY written article it is very tough to figure out what happened. But I am going to guess.

Team in America was hired by US Army to navigate local Afghan culture.

Part of the team was a good looking non-muslim woman and some muslim men.

Muslim men made sexual advances on woman. Woman rebuffed him/them.

Muslim man doused infidel women in gas and set her on fire to save his “honor.”

Another infidel man sees all this a shoots the muslim man to try to save the woman.

AND HE IS charged is murder???

10 posted on 01/10/2009 4:38:40 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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> I think this guy should get a medal

Me too. No good deed shall go unpunished.


11 posted on 01/10/2009 4:38:40 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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little more info:

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D95JPF980.htm


14 posted on 01/10/2009 4:43:11 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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First, this guy shouldn’t even be charged. Second, I pray that he is acquitted.

Whoever brought charges against him in the first place should have the TAR beat out of him!


15 posted on 01/10/2009 4:43:34 PM PST by proudofthesouth (In spite of what's going on in the world, God is still in control.)
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To: BBell

Maybe Hillary will nuke Pakistan, then.


27 posted on 01/10/2009 4:57:51 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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The contractor, Don Ayala of New Orleans, Louisiana, is accused of shooting the Afghan civilian in the head after having helped restrain him. He is charged with second degree murder in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Virginia.

He should have shot him first, then restrained him. Note to CNN: since when is a Taleban terrorist who sets fire to an American civilian contractor himself a civilian?

28 posted on 01/10/2009 4:58:03 PM PST by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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There is no way this man would spend a second in jail if i was on that jury.


33 posted on 01/10/2009 5:05:03 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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One of Loyd's colleagues has been charged with second-degree murder in the shooting of the man who attacked Loyd.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The man should be awarded a metal. If this prosecutor is in the military he should given a dishonorable discharge.

This is unbelievable!!!

40 posted on 01/10/2009 5:28:07 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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i suppose all should have stood around while the “pyro” threw fuel on everyone rather than fight back.


41 posted on 01/10/2009 5:29:28 PM PST by machogirl (taglines are like shoes: if you're a gal, you can never have too many)
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To: BBell

So much for navigating the local culture.


43 posted on 01/10/2009 5:37:39 PM PST by informavoracious
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Actually, in this case I think he was in error for executing him.

It is said that when you are armed, and confronted in the open by a dangerous pack of wild dogs that want to kill and eat you, instead of killing a dog outright, you should gut shoot it. If it is killed, the other dogs will ignore it, but if it is still alive and screaming, they will hesitate, so you can make good your escape.

In this case, this sort of behavior is part of the South Asian culture. So just executing the attacker will be met with a shrug. Instead, he should be horribly wounded in such a way that he will live, yet starve to death and die as a beggar.

This would have a greater impact in changing their behavior. They would understand that civilized people object to burning women.

So in this case, perhaps it would be better to kneecap him, before setting his beard and hair on fire, and making sure it all burns off, likely blinding him. Perhaps a finishing touch would be to crush or amputate his right hand.

Each of these things would be instructive to his fellow dogs.


46 posted on 01/10/2009 5:56:17 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SJackson; Alouette; ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; fieldmarshaldj; SandRat; river rat

A terrorists burns a woman to death, and the man who shoots her murderer is charged with murder. Does this make sense to anyone?


47 posted on 01/10/2009 6:18:56 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If greed is a virtue, than corporate socialism is conservative)
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It's a US Court, specifically the United States Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, that Mr. Ayala is charged in, under the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act.

Affidavit is here, The Affiant is Jennifer L. Bryan,,a Special Agent with the United States Army Criminal Investigation Division.

From the affaidavit:

10. Salam immediately fled the scene and ran about 50 meters toward AYALA. AYALA drew his pistol but did not fire at Salam. AYALA instead extended his arm, causing Salam to run into his arm and fall to the ground. AYALA attempted to restrain Salam and was assisted by soldiers from the platoon who responded to the scene. Salam was restrained with plastic restraints (also called "flexcuffs" or "zipcuffs"), around his wrists, which were behind his back. At this point Salam became a detainee, by U.S. military definition. AYALA further restrained Salam by kneeling over Salam and using his body weight to hold Salam to the ground. AYALA also pointed his pistol at Salam's head. Salam continued to resist detention, but there were several Soldiers around him and AYALA had Salam effectively immobilized. After about ten minutes, a soldier approached the location where AYALA had Salam detained and informed the personnel in the area that Loyd was burned badly. AYALA pushed his pistol against Salam's head and shot Salam, killing him instantly.

11. After shooting Salam, AYALA had his pistol and rifle confiscated by the platoon leader in charge of the patrol. AYALA willingly gave up his weapons and was returned to FOB Hutal after the patrol consolidated. AYALA'S pistol was retained by members of the unit until return to FOB Hutal. A representative from the unit's higher headquarters took custody of the pistol the same day and secured it at FOB Ramrod, Afghanistan, until CID agents arrived and collected the pistol as evidence. The pistol is pending laboratory examination for DNA evidence, ballistics, and functionality.

In my opinion, such cases, if they be brought at all, should be conducted in a Military Court, with military officers and/or enlisted members serving on the court, only they could be expected to a true "Jury of peers" for alleged offenses committed during a war.

51 posted on 01/10/2009 7:52:10 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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