Posted on 01/10/2009 10:36:44 AM PST by marktwain
I am not required to obey unlawful orders but I must know what is unlawful. If I believe an order unlawful and refuse it, I can still be court martialled. If I prove the order was unlawful I will be ok, but otherwise I will face serious consequences. An officer would have to be insane to believe they could win a courtmartial against the President when the Supremes wont even hear these B.C. cases. So, unless the Supreme Court declares Obama a usurper, the military will follow his orders with all but very rare exception. (and those exceptions will be punished)
All I know is that we were pissed that some a-hole called the cops on us for no reason other that to discourage us from hunting on public land that bordered their property. The cops could not tell us who accused us of poaching, and this made us even angrier. This was the first time I have ever had a cop, or anyone, draw a gun on me, and it is unnerving to say the least. The cops were nice after we the initial encounter and understood that we were pissed that we had to undergo this BS because some SOB did not want anyone hunting anywhere near them.
What has caused him to need to do that?
As was discussed on another thread, one key will be for 2A defenders to stick together when one goes down.
Whether deliberately chosen or not, the first to get busted are usually fringe cases that everyone turns they back on. These fringe cases never have clean records, are never fully mainstream people, and are those that are easy to ignore.
We do this at our own peril.
Those are the test cases that makes the next case more difficult.
As was once said long ago, we either hang together or we shall surely hang separately.
Sounds like the "officer on the street" needs some refresher training. Or an attitude adjustment, or both.
Optimist!
They are supposed to. The Constitution requires that they do.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
Article VI, Constitution for the United States
Today they came for my obnoxious neighbor but tomorrow they'll be coming for you and me....
I hope your right.
And when people say that some doofus NFL player that shoots himself deserves to be charged with unlawful possession of a gun then they are making a decision to not support other’s rights to carry....even if they are a doofus.
We have to be prepared to defend our obnoxious neighbors!
“officers do not have the authority to disarm you”
Amen
Yup, we must be ‘gifted’ because we can see the obvious.
If killing an endangered mud-hen is a crime, my punishment would mean the forfeiture of my $80 single shot 20 gauge; your punishment is a $25,000 Browning limited edition over/under. How is this equitable? My confiscation portion is neglible, and yours is excessive.
If we are both poaching ducks, and I have a sleeping bag, old tent, and a 250cc scooter that I use in my endeavors; and you use a $250,000 camper with a $50,000 Bass boat, with a Lexus SUV - how is it fair that my punishment in confiscation is pushing $750 and your is going to be over $350,000 for the exact same crime?
Now, when it comes time to going in front of the judge, we’ll likely both get equivalent fines and sentences - but this whole confiscation view point is not only blatantly unfair, is’t unconsitutional.
If we were to get arrested for Exhibition Driving, speeding, running a stop sign, reckless endangerment, eluding police and a DWI, the police cannot confiscate our cars. Then why do these same officials seem to think that confiscating guns is somehow different? I can point to a Constitutional Ammendent that addresses the right to bear arms. I see no right anywhere with regard to vehicles.
“Most of the Game Wardens I have met around here in N.E. OK.....have been very helpful and professional.”
Great! Maybe I need to move to OK. Around here “most” are assholes.
The kind of things Revolutions are made of.
However, several years ago, I was home alone during the day while my husband was at work when I heard something hit the house, twice. I looked out the windows and saw no one. The dog was quiet, meaning no one was on the property. I went outside and examined the house where I thought I had heard something hit. I was wondering if a dumb bird had hit, although they normally hit the windows.
I found a small hole in the siding. Looking further, I found a second hole. Poking inside and using a flashlight, I saw something in there that didn't look like it was part of the house. The holes were consistent with a .22. They were above my head and I had to use a stepladder to find and examine them.
I called the sheriff. A deputy came out and he and I decided someone had been shooting squirrels across the road down by the river, which is around 40 feet lower than the house. The .22s had traveled about 1/8 of a mile or so. Luckily, it hadn't hit a window, as I had been in the room that was hit. Luckily, again, the angle was such that even had it gone through a window, it was about 6 feet off the ground. Had my husband been in the room and had the bullet gone thru the window, it would have parted his hair. It went thru aluminum siding and lodged in the wood frame. IIRC, it went in about 1/2” or so, maybe a bit more.
The sheriff's deputy agreed it was an unsafe situation, but there was nothing that could be done. By the time the deputy got there, the hunter had left. The hunter was within his rights. Not that it would have mattered had anyone been hurt, or worse.
It was an adrenaline moment.
Precisely why obambi wants to create his civilian Praetorian guard. (Only Chicago residents, illegals, and New Englanders need apply!)
It is absolutely true, and goes without saying.
ANY order Obama issues WILL be ignored. ,p.He hasn't been sworn in yet, and so has NO authority...yet.
Ten days from now, different story. *<];-')
I recommend everybody to read the Obama timeline, its literally ammunition we can use.
http://www.colony14.net/id41.html
Buy all the ammo you can ...it’s hard to get now
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