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DNR to hunters: Hand over your guns on demand
Lakeland Times ^ | 9 January, 2009 | Richard Moore

Posted on 01/10/2009 10:36:44 AM PST by marktwain

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A long, but excellent article on open carry and the DNR in Wisconsin. The important part is that officers do not have the authority to disarm you simply because you are carrying a weapon. If that were the case, the constitional right to bear arms for self-defense and security in Wisconsin would make no sense.
1 posted on 01/10/2009 10:36:45 AM PST by marktwain
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"Your cooperation with law enforcement is vital no matter what the situation is," Lawhern concluded. "To act any other way could result in a tragedy easily avoided by simply following their instructions."

Translation: "Do vat die Gestapo sess or ve vill see to it dat you suffer die conseqvences!"

Maybe some effort should be expended teaching law enforcement personnel to issue LEGAL "instructions."

2 posted on 01/10/2009 10:41:15 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

"Come and take them"

3 posted on 01/10/2009 10:41:55 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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And cops wonder why they are viewed as a threat to liberty.


4 posted on 01/10/2009 10:43:37 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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Jack booted thugs.


5 posted on 01/10/2009 10:44:17 AM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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It looks like it has started.


6 posted on 01/10/2009 10:45:39 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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DNR hunter education administrator Timothy Lawher should be removed for cause. He is advocating a policy that is against the state’s current laws.

It seems to me that Palin was advocating policies that were sound from the perspective of the private citizen. Law enforcement should not have a problem with that.


7 posted on 01/10/2009 10:46:29 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I see that Kenya's favorite son has a new weekly Saturday morning radio show.)
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You've got that right!


I wonder how good those DNR warden survival skills will be for them when they are hogtied, bare assed, to a tree deep in their own territory?

8 posted on 01/10/2009 10:47:47 AM PST by G.Mason (If you surrender your right to own a gun, you surrender your right to your life)
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We have the somewhat situation here in Mi. The dnr believes that they can go where ever they want to. I have a NO TRESSPASSING signs posted on my property & I will defend this to the death!

Badges! We need no stinking badges!


9 posted on 01/10/2009 10:47:55 AM PST by TMSuchman (I'll heat up & bring the tar, you bring the feathers & we'll meet in DC!)
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"Come and take them"

By the time they actually get around to doing that, they will have whittled the likes of true Patriots into such a minority that there won't be much you can actually do. Killing one or two in the process might give you a keen sense of satisfaction just before dying though.
10 posted on 01/10/2009 10:48:59 AM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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11 posted on 01/10/2009 10:49:54 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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Any wives of said enforcement officers should do two things immediately.

Get extended life insurance benefits for hubby, get enrolled with eHarmony.

I kid thee not, America is fed up and will not bend over any more.

No amount of threatening postures is going to convince the public to roll over and submit, some will of course.

Its Obamas fault.


12 posted on 01/10/2009 10:51:03 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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“In West Allis, in August, in a scenario eerily similar to the one Lawhern outlined, West Allis police drew their weapons and arrested Bruce Krause, who was wearing a holstered legal pistol while planting trees on his own property.”

OMG...how utterly ridiculous. The guy is on his own property, engaged in some innocuous activity, but happens to be wearing an openly visible, legal pistol, and he gets arrested?

I hope he gets a very big settlement...

Unfortunately, this kind of Gestapo tactic will become more and more prevalent under the Anointed One, I fear.

Time to refresh the tree of Liberty?


13 posted on 01/10/2009 10:51:26 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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30+ years ago, the Game Wardens in S. Dakota would ask you to surrender your rifles, shotguns, ect. If you surrendered them, they were confiscated and sold at auction.

However, if you were ‘wise’ enough to say ‘No, I demand due process’; the game warden may issue you as many tickets as you were entitled to, but he could not forcibly take the weapon.

An interesting point was brought up by a wealthy poacher (3 deer, plus others and no license whatsoever) when he was arrested. The law in S. Dak in the 80-90’s (don’t know if it’s still current) held that the Dept. of Game, Fish and Parks could confiscate all vehicles and property used in the act of poaching. In this case it was a new 4-wheel drive truck, a new RV and a new boat/trailer, plus all the contents found inside.

The arguement was that it was ‘unfair’; in that the penalty of using a Lexus SUV to obtain game was a higher price to pay than the person who used a 1980 Ford POS.


14 posted on 01/10/2009 10:52:28 AM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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Most conservation “officers” here in Alabama are nothing more than jack booted thugs. There, I said it. The have done more to lessen the number of hunters here than anything else. And if any of the “game wardens” here want some examples I’ll be glad to oblige.


15 posted on 01/10/2009 10:52:57 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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"Come and take them"

Agreed!

16 posted on 01/10/2009 10:56:29 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: PubliusMM; Eye of Unk; TMSuchman; DoughtyOne; Eagle Eye; Mark was here; Texas Fossil; IronJack

Here is a web site of activists that are working to improve the situation:

http://www.wisconsinpatriots.com/


17 posted on 01/10/2009 10:58:55 AM PST by marktwain
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They may not have the authority but they have the power, and if consequences have anything to do with “authority,” try resisting and getting killed by one of them and see if they get reprimanded or ordered to compensate your family. Then tell me they didn’t have the authority.
I used to say it would be 20 years before gun rights vanished from America. Now I’m thinking 10 should do it. :(


18 posted on 01/10/2009 11:00:57 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (If you want Palin in 2012, better start closing those primaries now.)
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When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty


19 posted on 01/10/2009 11:01:24 AM PST by mojitojoe
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This is EXACTLY why when I decided to leave Illinois I have not looked at moving to WI.


20 posted on 01/10/2009 11:01:58 AM PST by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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