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Cops shoot unarmed man in the head
YouTube ^ | 5 January, 2009 | KTVU News

Posted on 01/07/2009 2:10:16 PM PST by LuxMaker

Youtube video in link.


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To: cacoethes_resipisco
The leading theory in the Bay Area news reports is that the cop thought he was grabbing for his taser but somehow came up with his pistol.

I think I'd know the difference between a taser and a pistol.
21 posted on 01/07/2009 2:27:42 PM PST by JamesP81 (Let the Great RINO Hunt of 2009 begin)
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To: LuxMaker

Just watched the video. I saw a murder.


22 posted on 01/07/2009 2:29:05 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: brytlea
I don’t understand what happened. He doesn’t appear to be struggling with the officers or any sort of threat to them, however without sound and from the less that clear images it’s difficult to tell. I predict this is not going to go well for the police.

The police will be fine, excepting for one with an itchy trigger finger, it is the Taxpayers who are going to get shafted.

23 posted on 01/07/2009 2:30:09 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: LuxMaker
the cop thought he was grabbing for his taser but somehow came up with his pistol.

Mistakes are made, but this mustn't happen... also why would he taser his head? The man is down. He could be tasered anywhere... very unprofessional and irresponsible for a 2-year cop at the very least.

24 posted on 01/07/2009 2:30:10 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They’ll probably file for disability.


25 posted on 01/07/2009 2:30:53 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: cacoethes_resipisco

That actually makes much more sense. I couldn’t see the cop’s face, so I couldn’t tell if he was surprised. But, it seems incredible to imagine the cop decided to just shoot the guy right there in public. I know there are bad cops, but I suspect those guys do whatever out of sight of the public.


26 posted on 01/07/2009 2:31:16 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: JamesP81

> I think I’d know the difference between a taser and a pistol.

Would you? Always? How about towards the end of a 12 hour shift, during which you had been shot at and while your wife was in labor?

Not making excuses for the cop. If that was the mistake, it was a damned big one. But I do find it more believable than cold blooded murder.

If the police in the Oakland/Berkeley area were into cold blooded murder, the crime rate up there would be a lot lower, for one thing.


27 posted on 01/07/2009 2:31:33 PM PST by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: cacoethes_resipisco
thought he was grabbing for his taser but somehow came up with his pistol

Watch the second video. He stood up, extended his arms, and shot. He was in a pistol shooting stance, not one that would be used with a taser. He knew what he was doing. That report is the cops trying to cover a murder with an "accident".

28 posted on 01/07/2009 2:31:46 PM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: Domandred

It does look like that, which I find nearly impossible to believe.


29 posted on 01/07/2009 2:32:27 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: cacoethes_resipisco
"Not making excuses for the cop."

Lol!

30 posted on 01/07/2009 2:34:53 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: cacoethes_resipisco
The leading theory in the Bay Area news reports is that the cop thought he was grabbing for his taser but somehow came up with his pistol. This is reinforced by the surprised reaction of the cop who did the shooting (if the link above is to the complete video.

That would be my take on it, but I would question, why was he trying to put a tazer into the guys head?

Doesn't quite add up

31 posted on 01/07/2009 2:35:07 PM PST by Popman (Dont worry Barney Frank has your ass-ets covered!!!)
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To: LuxMaker
I can see a couple of situations where a person might be shot like this. One would be if he told the officers he was wearing a bomb and threatened to set it off. Any movement that the officers could mistake for going for a button to push could result in being shot in the head at close range. Sometimes the detonating device for a body bomb is wired down the sleeve to let the person set it off without having to move their arms at all.

This is one of those that's simply going to have to await a long, detailed investigation. With video like this it's going to have to be a top-notch team and investigation.

Who knows what was going on in that scuffle or what was said by whom. One thing about situations like this, they seldom turn out to be as cut and dried as the video makes it look.

32 posted on 01/07/2009 2:35:25 PM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: Domandred

Are you suggesting that the cop didn’t know there were about a gazillion other people, some with cell phones, right there? Either he’s a complete idiot, or he honestly thinks no one would tell that he shot the guy in cold blood.


33 posted on 01/07/2009 2:35:47 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: brytlea

Yea it’s one of those things you see but you just don’t want to believe it and hope that what you can’t make out on the grainy video and bad audio shows it to be something different then it looks.


34 posted on 01/07/2009 2:35:51 PM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: cacoethes_resipisco

How about quick reaction shooting drills? “Basically drills to short circuit active thinking and induce reflexive actions?”

Something akin to when you see the old lady get the felony stop pull over.

A lot of patrolmen training is to take out thinking.

There was a time a bunch of young males fighting was just broken up and everyone sent on their way, one way or another. Now a common young buck fight fest is a full employment feast for the security bureaucracy and other state organs.


35 posted on 01/07/2009 2:38:02 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: Mark was here

By not go well, I meant that I think it may be easy for them to convict this guy. I hope it was an accident, I really hate to think a cop would just cold bloodedly shoot someone, especially with an audience.


36 posted on 01/07/2009 2:38:14 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Seriously. I am all about police accountability, and am not in the habit of cutting them slack.

If that’s what happened, the officer should be fired, the victim’s family should get a buttload of money, and the cop should probably face charges.

It makes much more sense (to me, anyway) than a cold blooded murder on a BART platform. Besides which, I know that cops accidentally shooting someone when they meant to tase them has been documented several times over the last 6 years.


37 posted on 01/07/2009 2:39:45 PM PST by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: Domandred

I do hope so. It will remain to be seen, and probably by the end of the trial we will still have to make a judgment about what we think happened. Sad at any rate.


38 posted on 01/07/2009 2:40:34 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: Domandred

Move along folks,nothing here.Just typical police state behavior.


39 posted on 01/07/2009 2:40:54 PM PST by roofer13
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To: LuxMaker
That was murder by cop!!!!
40 posted on 01/07/2009 2:40:59 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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