Posted on 01/04/2009 10:36:21 AM PST by Kaslin
Israeli attacks must not stop until Iran's proxy, Hamas, is defeated.
Reporting from Jerusalem -- The images from the fighting in Gaza are harrowing but ultimately deceptive. They portray a mighty invading army, one equipped with F-16 jets that have bombed a civilian population defended by a few thousand fighters armed with primitive rockets. But widen the lens and the true nature of this conflict emerges. Hamas, like Hezbollah in Lebanon, is a proxy for the real enemy Israel is confronting: Iran. And Israel's current operation against Hamas represents a unique chance to deal a strategic blow to Iranian expansionism.
Until now, the Iranian revolution has appeared unstoppable. The Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s ended with Iranian troops occupying Iraqi territory. Iranian influence then spread to Saudi Arabia's heavily Shiite and oil-rich Eastern province, and to Lebanon through Hezbollah. Since the fall of their long-standing enemy, Saddam Hussein, Iranians have deeply infiltrated Iraq. Syria has been drawn into Iran's sphere, and even the Sunni sheikdoms of the gulf now defer to Iran, dispatching foreign ministers to Tehran and defying international sanctions against it. Iran has co-opted Hamas, a Sunni organization closely linked to the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, transforming the Israeli-Palestinian conflict into a jihad against the Jewish state. But Iran's boldest achievement has been to thwart world pressure and approach the nuclear threshold. Once fortified with nuclear weapons, Iranian hegemony in the Middle East would be complete.
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They need to take out Hamas and then go after Iran! They need to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities while they still can!
Indeed
Ahmadinejad’s media advisor, Mehdi Kalhar, said to Iranian students protesting at Mehrabad Airport that “Iran must take action... Gaza has 45 kilometers of coast, so we must send them aid [in the form of] boatloads of [fighters] on a one-way ticket... An Israeli attack on the boats is nothing to be afraid of – for how else would we become martyrs?” Kalhar added that he had asked Ahmadinejad: “On the eve of the Ashura, why are we not in Gaza?”
Source: Fars, Iran, January 4, 2009
> An Israeli attack on the boats is nothing to be afraid of – for how else would we become martyrs?” Kalhar added that he had asked Ahmadinejad: “On the eve of the Ashura, why are we not in Gaza?”
One of the things that makes these muslim fighters somewhat dangerous is that they can do a heckuva lot of damage with relatively untrained fighters — all because of this “martyrdom” belief.
They need only train for “Mission In” There is no need for them to train for “Mission Out” because it is presumed that they will die in the attempt. They need only arrive and do as much damage as possible.
Mumbai would have required careful military training to a Commando standard if the intention was for the fighters to return home safely. Instead they can get away with a few well-indoctrinated punks with a bit of weapons training.
Same with 9/11.
This is an aspect that isn’t often discussed. Perhaps it should be.
They need only train for “Mission In” There is no need for them to train for “Mission Out” because it is presumed that they will die in the attempt. They need only arrive and do as much damage as possible.
Mumbai would have required careful military training to a Commando standard if the intention was for the fighters to return home safely. Instead they can get away with a few well-indoctrinated punks with a bit of weapons training.
Same with 9/11.
This is an aspect that isn’t often discussed. Perhaps it should be.
You are exactly right. Once the cost-benefit-analysis is removed from the equation, these people become far more worrisome. If martyrdom is the ultimate goal--not mere victory, coupled with survival--the Islamist radicals (pardon the redundancy, please) become enormously dangerous.
This is just another reason why I believe nothing short of total victory by Israel will ever deter these fanatics. Which is why I deeply hope Benjamin Netanyahu wins the election for prime mininster in February.
We are still feeding everyone in Gaza. Which is stark raving mad, but the underlying reality of the situation. The US state department gave the agencies feeding Hamas $45 million since the bombing campaign began, for example.
None of these goons would be able to exist with no means of survival or employment beyond killing Jews, without continued financial and physical supply support from Israel, the US, and the west.
Stop paying them to murder Jews for a living. They either move to Egypt to find work and bread, or they starve to death in a fortnight. It really doesn't matter a tuppenny damn what they want or are willing to do. They can't eat their own hatred.
Stop. Feeding. Them.
Israel is Gaza's (read: Hamas') only source of food, water, electricity and telephone service.
The U.S. and Europe are Gaza's (read: Hamas') only source of funds.
Kinda lowers this whole affair to the level of burlesque, does it not?
> Stop paying them to murder Jews for a living. They either move to Egypt to find work and bread, or they starve to death in a fortnight. It really doesn’t matter a tuppenny damn what they want or are willing to do. They can’t eat their own hatred.
And what do suppose would happen if the US stopped feeding them?
> And what do suppose would happen if the US stopped feeding them?
You see, I don’t think the Gaza muslims would bugger off to Egypt to get a job: that’s too convenient. Muslims aren’t known for doing convenient things. And it ignores the reality of the Middle East. They would get their food from the same place as they are getting their materiel from: Iran. Probably even on the same trucks. Not enough to make them fat and lazy, but definitely enough to keep them alive until their next suicide mission.
> Except it is nonsense. That isn’t remotely the problem.
I’d be interested to know what part of what I wrote is “a nonsense”. I believe it is a very fair assessment of their fighting capabilities, having read several of their training manuals.
Stop. Feeding. Them.
A Look at Iran
http://www.truthusa.com/IRAN.html
“They need only train for “Mission In” There is no need for them to train for “Mission Out” because it is presumed that they will die in the attempt. They need only arrive and do as much damage as possible.”
They cannot operate this way forever, it’s an impossibility. I’m not saying that we should ‘ride it out’... just maing a point that no civilization can sustain itself while brainwashing it’s populace to kill themselves.
So far, the Palestinians have never constructed anything even remotely resembling something that could reasonably be defined as a "civilization."
I stand corrected :)
> They cannot operate this way forever, it’s an impossibility. I’m not saying that we should ‘ride it out’... just maing a point that no civilization can sustain itself while brainwashing it’s populace to kill themselves.
That’s a good point. However, for as long as they can conduct warfare on an asymetrical basis they can achieve sufficent leverage to inflict disproportionate damage to us. Mumbai, for example: they achieved at least a 10:1 leverage of innocents killed versus terrorist scroats killed.
On that kill ratio basis alone, a terrorist population the size of Canada could just about wipe out the entire population of the United States.
Scary thought! We in the West need to find a way of upping the ante for them significantly.
Hopefully they'd all starve like rats.
L
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