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Is your money manager a crook?
MSN Money Central ^ | 12/31/08 | Catherine Holahan

Posted on 12/31/2008 5:23:01 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Is your money manager a crook?

If the rich, famous and sophisticated can get bilked (and the Madoff scandal makes it clear they can), how can you know whom to trust? Here are 5 red flags that should get your attention.

By Catherine Holahan

The list of Bernard Madoff's victims reads like a who's who of prominent business people, banks and financial firms. DreamWorks CEO Jeffrey Katzenberg reportedly invested millions. Banks such as HSBC (HBC, news, msgs) and Austria's Bank Medici could lose billions. An estimated dozens of "funds of funds," which exist to vet and choose the right hedge funds and mutual funds for investors, could lose billions more.

As a former chairman of the Nasdaq stock exchange, Madoff had connections and credentials that kept many investors from seeing -- or taking seriously -- complaints against his companies. Had investors delved deeply into his activities, they would have seen his businesses were not as squeaky-clean as his résumé would suggest.

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The background check doesn't check out

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You don't understand the strategy

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Your manager makes a bundle even if you don't

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No one else is watching the books

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Your fund manager doesn't invest alongside you

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(Excerpt) Read more at articles.moneycentral.msn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: crook; moneymanager
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1 posted on 12/31/2008 5:23:01 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 12/31/2008 5:23:26 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tough question. My money manager is myself but I tend to think I’m getting cheated sometimes.


3 posted on 12/31/2008 5:26:01 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Is your money manager a crook?”

Nope. Because She is Me. :)


4 posted on 12/31/2008 5:28:00 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ('Taking the moderate path of appeasement leads to abysmal defeat.' - Rush on 11/05/08)
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5 posted on 12/31/2008 5:31:44 PM PST by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The question should be “is your money manager a crook or a dope?”


6 posted on 12/31/2008 5:31:48 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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To: BGHater

It truly is Upside Down World!


7 posted on 12/31/2008 5:33:46 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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To: BGHater
Hmm... The Bubble Three. :-)
8 posted on 12/31/2008 5:35:00 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Gosh I hope not because he is me.


9 posted on 12/31/2008 5:41:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Latest news is Kevin Bacon got ripped off. Amount unspecified


10 posted on 12/31/2008 5:45:03 PM PST by dennisw (On the 31st floor a gold plated door won't keep out the Lord's burning rage ---FBB)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It was a tough year to be a broker. Yet honest brokers can be found.


11 posted on 12/31/2008 5:45:45 PM PST by Broker (Am ONE)
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To: BGHater
LTC
They looked good then
Their names are dirt today at least in my book

Is that Larry Summers? That dope hustled the repeal of Glass Steagall

 

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12 posted on 12/31/2008 5:50:46 PM PST by dennisw (On the 31st floor a gold plated door won't keep out the Lord's burning rage ---FBB)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

yes

and its me


13 posted on 12/31/2008 6:13:17 PM PST by Flavius
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To: dennisw

Here’s my list; the MM drives an 100K car; golfs three times a week, has multiple vacation homes, travels internationally twice a year, talks too much about restaurants and great wine.

As I say, “Looks good, smells good and doesn’t sweat.” He’s a phony.


14 posted on 12/31/2008 6:13:43 PM PST by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

No, but I’ve had a scrape or two


15 posted on 12/31/2008 6:20:32 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of wafarin (it's working))
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No, but I’ve had a scrape or two


16 posted on 12/31/2008 6:20:35 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of wafarin (it's working))
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To: Broker
Yet honest brokers can be found.

But after all this sh*t who will believe them?

You should always be able to go online and see your account, including what's in it.

You should always be able to get your advisor on the phone.

You should receive stellar service from your advisor.

You should expect to lose money sometimes.

You should be able to get a good, simple explanation of the assets in your account. (No weird sh*t).

You should always go over your quarterly statements and they should not get strange all of a sudden.

17 posted on 12/31/2008 7:14:35 PM PST by groanup
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To: TigerLikesRooster
A fool and his money!!! If you cannot take care of it give it away and don't worry. LOL
18 posted on 12/31/2008 7:50:13 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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Red flag #6 Your investment's too good to be true.

You have a manager who makes money when the market goes up, down and sideways - and you double your money every 4 to 6 years.

If it's too good to be true, it's either not that good or not that true. No one can do what Madoff claimed - not even Madoff.

19 posted on 12/31/2008 9:24:50 PM PST by GOPJ (GM's market value is a third of Bed, Bath and Beyond. Why is GM "too big to fail"? Steyn)
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To: randomhero97

It doesn’t look like your getting your money’s worth since your money manager is surfing the net reading political sites.


20 posted on 12/31/2008 10:19:28 PM PST by art_rocks
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