If you were listening on the Plains Radio around 7:45 Wed evening (last night), I was the guy who called in from Texas. Let me assure you that the 1964 divorce decree from Hawaii is NOT a hoax — it does exist.
With info that Ed gave me on Tuesday night off the air, I coordinated to have the package pulled at the ramp in Honolulu, placed into a Fed-Ex Next-Day envelope by a person at the terminal to get Ed the next day for last night's show. It was originally scheduled for Two-Day Delivery for some reason — I think either by the PI or as as standard procedure of the Hawaii Courts. However, we WERE able to change the package to Next Day (afternoon) Delivery.
It arrived at LAX on time, shortly after midnight. HOWEVER, we hit a snag — the aircraft broke for approx 4 hours, apparently awaiting a part. The 747 finally took off at 6:47 am Wednesday, bound for Memphis, FedEx’s main hub.
As the morning passed, we began to realize that the package would not get to Ed's local FedEx hub, and then out on a delivery truck to get to him. We tried to transfer it to another location to be picked up at that FedEx depot, to scan it for Wed's show. However, we couldn't pull it off in time to make a departure on Wed afternoon.
Ed will have it Friday at a changed location. Arrangements have been made — it's very safe.
Additionally, I personally spoke with the PI in Hawaii myself Wednesday morning. Let me pass on what I can relay at this time:
- as I understand, because the decree was Certified, it came straight from the Court House to Ed; the PI did not have the opportunity to copy or fax it. (If you've ever ordered an old deed or lien that has to be copied from archived records or microfiche, it's much the same — it's mailed directly to the requester ...)
- The PI did seem to have looked at the Digest version of the Divorce Decree, not the full version Ed is getting. His words to me, was “it's very interesting”
- The PI did not know if the document indicated Obama Jr's place of birth. However, in the early 60s in Hawaii, the place of birth oftentimes does appear in the notes.
- He told me also that the divorce decree was VERY hard to find and not readily searchable — not just a $30 fee at the counter. Significant research had to be conducted. It seems to have been hidden, possibly by Ann Dunham in her youth. (IMO, if it HAD been found already, Berg would have put it on his site along with other docs he's posted: http://www.obamacrimes.info/justthefacts.html. This is NEW documentation)
- The PI indicated that there's evidence that Ann used at least one alias tied to this. It's common knowledge that she used many names (Dunham, Soetoro, Sutoro, and variations thereof).
- There are other copies of the Divorce Decree going other places — the one going to Ed is NOT the only copy! There are back-ups going to other parties.
Thank you very much for the explanation!
Thank you, BP2.
Update Ping. Check out #329.
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Plains Radio Friday night:
http://www.plainsradio.com/chat1.html
Obama’s Kenyan birth evidence to be revealed today, online
(well, maybe)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2156668/posts?page=329#329
Are you embellishing? FedEx does not fly 747's. None.
And FedEx would not have a 0247 am departure out of LAX for MEM anyway. At least not one that carried overnight express (freight Charters maybe another thing). All flights carrying Express to Memphis, need to arrive at the Hub in the hours before 0130 CST in order take make the sort.
--FedEx retiree.
Thanks for the rest of the story. Very interesting.
...and furthermore, with HNL early cutoff times, you can’t send an overnight from Hawaii on Tuesday Evening and have it delivered in the Continental US next day anyway, you’d have to send it bt 1200 noon Tuesday (Hawaii time) to have a delivery on Wednesday. And FedEx shuts down and does no deliveries on 6 holidays a year, one of which is New Years.
Thanks for the ping Lucy and thanks to BP2 for your efforts.
On Feb. 2, 1961, several months after they met, Obama's parents got married in Maui, according to divorce records.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-3,00.html
Has this reference in Time already been discussed?
I get copies of record documents all the time, and they are always handed to me at the time that I pay for them. Court docs, such as divorce decrees, are usually obtained from the court house of the county where the case was heard, rather than the recorder’s office.
I have never had to wait for a doc to be mailed if I was personally present at the office.
I heartily suggest clicking in to BP2's post.
BP2, I intend to re-post your entire post early this morning in Investigating Obama. I'm considering this free/fair use stuff. But, if you want me to stop or after posting, edit or explicate, please FReepmail me or email me at arlenwilliams / at / yahoo / dot / com -- or comment in the post's comment field. Glad you did this.
Arlen
Bump from yesterday’s ping. Thanks.
Thanks for the update.
OK, who wants to take bets on the excuse when the documents don’t arrive?
Is it, The Fedex truck broke down?
Is it, well the package arrived but the PI forgot to put the right stuff in it?
Some nefarious character must have intercepted it?
Two questions:
What is the tracking number?
Did he check off that there needs to be a signature to accept delivery?