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Obama gives grandmother final aloha (video)
KHNL ^ | 12-24-08

Posted on 12/29/2008 11:52:51 AM PST by STARWISE

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To: Polarik

Don’t know, thought it was mentioned in one of hte articles. Did you see this one?
http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2008/12/obamas-online-birth-certificate-is-not.html


41 posted on 12/30/2008 10:15:14 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth

Yes, I did. It’s public record, but it was not supposed to be circulated, either.


42 posted on 12/30/2008 11:57:51 AM PST by Polarik (quote)
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To: Cicero
I'm so sick of hearing people make excuses and exceptions for Obama. He's busted! Read this:

* According to the Department of Land and Natural Resources of Hawaii, it's illegal to dump human remains on the shore (NOTE: Bambi dumped the ashes into the wind which blew tham back on shore).

* In accordance with the regulations determined by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, (cremated) remains must be scattered 3 nautical miles off the shore line.

* "Disposal location and measures - Cremated remains Cremated remains shall be buried in or on ocean waters without regard to the depth limitations specified for non-cremated remains in paragraph 2 above provided that such burial takes place at least

U.S. EPA Sea Burial / Ocean Dumping Regulations

NO RESPECT FOR HAWAIIAN LAW. NO RESPECT FOR US LAW. NO RESPECT FOR THE CONSTITUTION.

43 posted on 12/30/2008 12:04:57 PM PST by Polarik (quote)
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To: Polarik

How do we know that was really his grandma? Is she really dead? He may just have been emptying his ashtray.


44 posted on 12/30/2008 12:17:49 PM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Polarik

You said — ‘’I’m so sick of hearing people make excuses and exceptions for Obama. He’s busted! Read this: ... “

[ and ]

“NO RESPECT FOR HAWAIIAN LAW. NO RESPECT FOR US LAW. NO RESPECT FOR THE CONSTITUTION.”

Ummmm..., I hope this is not an indication of your abilities to gather and state facts... LOL...

See the following...


Regarding cremated remains, EPA rules state they also should be released at least three nautical miles out to sea, and notification afterward is required.

Meanwhile, the EPA leaves it up to the state to regulate the waters within three nautical miles.

The state Department of Health allows scattering of human ashes within three nautical miles without any special permit or notification required.

That’s because cremated remains are not considered a health hazard, said Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department just asks that “whomever is scattering, to please be considerate of others in the area.”

If you have additional questions, contact Chief Petty Officer Marsha Delaney of the U.S. Coast Guard in Hawaii, at 541-2053.

[ http://archives.starbulletin.com/2007/02/15/news/kokualine.html ]


While it is true that Obama is not someone that we as conservatives want, he has been elected and no one has shown any proof in a court of law as to why Obama should be prevented from assuming the Office of President of the United States. Not even the Supreme Court has taken any action to prevent him from assuming office.

The problem I’m seeing here with a lot of the people who post about Obama is that they get carried away with material that is plainly not true and are willing to believe *anything* — as long as it is negative against Obama. The problem is — that a lot of that material is speculative and is not proven and some is plainly false.

That’s not the way to really fight Obama. What’s going to be needed is very careful and precise information and not simply “outrage” for the sake of outrage. That’s not producing any productive results, it seems...


45 posted on 12/30/2008 1:28:08 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
The problem I’m seeing here with a lot of the people who post about Obama is that they get carried away with material that is plainly not true and are willing to believe *anything* — as long as it is negative against Obama.

In other words, we're starting to act like the libs and how they treated Bush.

I'm not happy that Obama is going to be POTUS, and I don't believe he is legally able to take office, however, I'm beginning to believe that you're right, and other methods will need to be executed to battle this long road.
46 posted on 12/30/2008 1:31:16 PM PST by JenB987
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To: JenB987

You said — “In other words, we’re starting to act like the libs and how they treated Bush.”

LOL..., maybe so... (but still not good..).

And then — “’m not happy that Obama is going to be POTUS, and I don’t believe he is legally able to take office, however, I’m beginning to believe that you’re right, and other methods will need to be executed to battle this long road.”

Yeah, it’s like in a war (a “real war” you know...) and you have many different battles. Some you win and some you don’t. If you lose some, you may have to change some strategies and ways of doing things.

In this case, with Obama’s qualifications, if people do want *more* documentation and for it to be *required* — then we’re going to have to set up exact procedures, required by law, that no one can get around — in these various states. When it’s explicitly stated, in law, then people (like some Democrats, for example) won’t have the discretion to ignore certain things.


47 posted on 12/30/2008 2:06:10 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
"That's because cremated remains are not considered a health hazard," said Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

Well, I stand corrected. If Janice Okubo said it, then it must be true.

I could not give a rat's pitoot what Obama did with a bag of ashes, which could easily have come from his fireplace, for all we know.

What I do care about, however, is the media and his minion accepting absolutely everything, prima facie, that he says he is going to do, that he is now doing, or that he has already done.

The guy's got a lousy track record in the truth department.

48 posted on 12/30/2008 2:40:15 PM PST by Polarik (quote)
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To: Polarik

OK, thanks. Someone in the forum had said earlier that there was an exception for human ashes, but I hadn’t seen it confirmed anywhere, so I just mentioned it as a possibility.


49 posted on 12/30/2008 2:58:27 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Plummz
?How do we know that was really his grandma? Is she really dead? He may just have been emptying his ashtray.

LOL, that's exactly what I said. "Typical white" ashes.

50 posted on 12/30/2008 4:36:29 PM PST by Polarik (quote)
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To: STARWISE

Is that the SAME Grandmother who testified to seeing Mr. Hussein Obama BORN in Mombassa, Kenya?


51 posted on 12/31/2008 8:58:19 PM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 2harddrive

No .. the service was for his maternal grandmother.


52 posted on 12/31/2008 8:59:48 PM PST by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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