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Domestic dispute ends in a deadly shooting
Houston Chronicle ^ | 20 December, 2008 | NA

Posted on 12/27/2008 5:23:50 AM PST by marktwain

A woman's 80-year-old grandfather fatally shot her estranged husband after he tried to take their two children from the grandparents' house, Conroe police said Saturday.

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According to police, Boudreaux's estranged wife and children have been living with her grandparents for about five months. When Boudreaux arrived Friday and tried to take the children, the grandfather intervened and ordered him to leave. Boudreaux refused, pushing the man out of the way, the statement said. The grandfather then allegedly retrieved a revolver from another room and placed it in his back pocket before again advising Boudreaux, who was aware the older man had a gun, to leave, police said.

As the two left the home out to the driveway, Boudreaux again pushed the older man and allegedly struck him in the chest area where he recently had a pacemaker inserted, police said. Fearing for his life, police said the older man then allegedly shot Boudreaux once, killing him.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; domestic; domesticviolence; grandfather; shooting; texas
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These domestic situations are tragic. However, this appears to be a classic case of disparity of force. The 80 year old grandfather with a pacemaker could reasonably fear for his life at the hands of the younger, healthier, violent man.
1 posted on 12/27/2008 5:23:51 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

why does a father have to fight anyone to get to see his kids? The real tragedy is that the dad died to see his children....the court and friend of the court system is sooo broken it is beyond belief


2 posted on 12/27/2008 5:29:20 AM PST by joe fonebone (The libtard votes in every election, regardless of the candidate.)
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To: marktwain

There is just no excuse for shoving and striking an 80yr old man.


3 posted on 12/27/2008 5:29:22 AM PST by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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To: marktwain

Plus .. why was the father trying to TAKE the children from the home ..?? That’s another whole dynamic.

We’ve seen this type of case before, many times. The father comes and takes the children and the mother is left to search for them for years .. and some children are taken to foreign countries and never see the mother again.

And .. we have also seen mother’s do this very same thing to their children.

I’m thankful the grandfather was willing to step up and take charge. God bless him.


4 posted on 12/27/2008 5:32:20 AM PST by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: joe fonebone
While they are fixing that,they need to do something about deadbeat dads. Maybe the deceased Boudreaux was a deadbeat dad ,who wasn't supporting them and had no right to see his children.I have two ex sons-in-law. One is almost $12,000.00 behind in child support,the other is well over $20,000.00. In Ohio ,the moms and children suffer and the dads can send $50.00 a month and the judge smiles..
If Boudreaux had cared about his children ,he would have chosen a better time/place to act responsibly to visit with them. This way they were subjected to the horror of watching their grandpa attacked and their father killed. Way to go fella.
5 posted on 12/27/2008 5:37:16 AM PST by Disgusted in Texas
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The 80 year old grandfather with a pacemaker could reasonably fear for his life at the hands of the younger, healthier, violent man.

But can a grandfather reasonably stand between a father and his children?

No order from the court denying the father contact with his children was in effect. The mother and her family took it upon themselves to make that happen.

Multiple gunshot wounds is usually an indication that there was more than than self-defense in the mind of the shooter.

More

6 posted on 12/27/2008 5:40:19 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: joe fonebone

To start with...sounds like daddy is abusive...Shoving a grandfather protecting his child and grandchildren?? God bless him.


7 posted on 12/27/2008 5:40:54 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Bobalu

Why did the eighty year old man follow the father out to the driveway after leaving the house?

I looked at this case over and over and both were wrong. There was no reason for the grandfather to kill the father.

I don’t know if the court had already issued an order but if so, this was the weekend for the father to have his kids.


8 posted on 12/27/2008 5:43:45 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: RGSpincich
Multiple gunshot wounds is usually an indication that there was more than than self-defense in the mind of the shooter.

If I ever use my revolver in self-defense, I'll keep shooting until all my bullets are gone. And I just won't give a flying fig what you think that indicates.

9 posted on 12/27/2008 5:44:15 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: RGSpincich

Grandpa was in his house, on his property protecting himself and his family. You come in my house pushing me out of the way and say you are taking my child or grandchildren and you can deal with my friends Smith & Wesson. In Georgia its called the Castle Doctrine and you can use deadly force to protect your home and family. And after the warning Dad got...........


10 posted on 12/27/2008 5:46:57 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Sacajaweau

You already have an old man removing a father out of the house so he can’t see his kids.

This is not an open and shut case.

Go to the MySpace website and take a good look at the parent’s sites. The truth is somewhere in the middle.


11 posted on 12/27/2008 5:47:39 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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This tale is just a little bit one sided. I would like to hear the dad's story. Oops I can't. I was set up like that once. I knew enough about my ex’s family to back out when I saw the threat. It is an easy way to get rid of somebody.
12 posted on 12/27/2008 5:48:41 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Disgusted in Texas

and i have relatives who are up to date, provide more food and clothing that the custodial parent, and the courts still refuse to enforce visitation.....what about immoral mothers, they should face prison just as the “deadbeat dads” do...and maybe the dads are deadbeats because they do not get to see their children.....


13 posted on 12/27/2008 5:50:17 AM PST by joe fonebone (The libtard votes in every election, regardless of the candidate.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
From the comments section. It seems there was a written agreement between the mother and father. The mother broke the agreement because she learned that the father was seeing somebody.

mrsboudreaux wrote on Dec 26, 2008 10:04 AM:

" .... To answer any questions about this article. He and his (wife) had went to mediation and decided he could get the kids on Thursdays and stay the whole weekend every other weekend. He would return only his daughter Thursday night to her mother and then pick her up again Friday and she would stay the weekend with her brother. (I hope that made sense.) That was signed by the wife and Brice. The wife learned after he left that he had met someone and that is when everything started. She accused him of leaving her for this knew girl, but it was not. He had went to counseling and tried to make their relationship work. He left his wife because he had not been happy for a very long time. Once the vindictive wife learned of the girlfriend, she would no longer allow him to see the kids. They had a court date set to finalize, but the mother had that postponed. His mother was in town for another mediation because the wife was not going by what they agreed to. Her lawyer postponed never contacting Brice or his atty. The wife called and said we do not have court tomorrow, that her atty had something else. She had not let him see the kids for thanksgiving. She withdrew them from school so he couldnt even visit them there. She would not let him see them for xmas. He was torn apart. This had nothing to do with him as a person. Stacia still loved Brice and could not accept the fact he left and wanted no part of her. Then when he did find someone that was wonderful to him, she could not stand that. "

14 posted on 12/27/2008 5:51:34 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Multiple gunshot wounds is usually an indication that there was more than than self-defense in the mind of the shooter.

From the article:

the older man then allegedly shot Boudreaux once, killing him.

15 posted on 12/27/2008 5:51:51 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Texas law says it was the father’s weekend to see the kids if a court order was made. The grandfather and mother could have been in contempt of court for their actions.

The father had already left the house when he was shot by the grandfather in the driveway. The grandfather followed the father out and then killed him.

The father’s “crime” was he wanted to see his kids. From your post, you would have been dead on the driveway.


16 posted on 12/27/2008 5:56:16 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

He shot him in the driveway as the father was leaving. You would do that? That’s murder.

Pushing Grandpa? Near the pacemaker? How calculating and utterly staged.

No doors kicked in, no marks on Grandpa,no broken furnishings, no weapon on Brice.

No need to shoot the man.


17 posted on 12/27/2008 5:58:53 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Thanks for posting the link to the article with more information.

Domestic situations are pots boiling with emotion. It is often hard for the adults to act rationally.

18 posted on 12/27/2008 6:00:11 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Graybeard58
Boudreaux had three gunshot wounds, according to Conroe Police Detective Charles Whittle, one in the torso and one in the arm. Whittle didn’t know where the third wound was located.
19 posted on 12/27/2008 6:01:15 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich

Thanks for the post. I haven’t read the comments lately.

mrsboudreaux has been trying to get the facts out since the comments started.

The freepers are in a rush to judgement on this one.


20 posted on 12/27/2008 6:03:12 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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