Posted on 12/20/2008 4:53:49 PM PST by Paige
Forty nine years before Christ was born, Emperor Julius Caesar violated the law by leading his troops across the Rubicon river to invade ancient Rome, and a civil war ensued. Leading the troops across the Rubicon was considered an act of war. From that point forward, nothing was the same, there was no going back and conflict was unavoidable. Caesar himself recognized this fact and was said to have stated "alea iacta est," or "the die is cast." The United States Supreme Court, by making NO statement on the issues of Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility for the Presidency, has conspired with half of the nation to render the Constitution, the supposedly inviolate code of law protecting each of us, meaningless. This is the point of no return; an act of war declared against all our laws represent, our way of life.
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No, his blackmail would be the worst possible kind. Its one thing to blackmail over criminality. That is relatively no big deal.
This blackmail is indefensible. He’s done. He would be out of office within a couple of days.
John
Sorry, forgot the sarcasm tag on the last paragraph.
Funny we never hear about the names of the Roman political parties. Thanks.
Don't misunderstand me. If Obama is not a natural born citizen, then he is barred by the Constitution from taking office, and I would be thrilled if that requirement saved our country from him. My point is that his supporters don't care, and neither does the Congress (which has the sole power to try such questions). You can't blackmail someone if he and his supporters don't care, and short of a revolution (which they are incapable of believing would be initiated to stop an illegitimate socialist from taking our private property), they have no reason to care.
In other words, the American people are more stupid than a high-school adminstration?
The Republic is doomed.
Please do NOT read this as your only source for Roman history. Follow up with Salust, Caesar and Tacitus (and if you enjoy the writing of Ann Coulter, Suetonius.)
Please note, there was an element of sarcasm in the parenthetical statement above.
That's sort of what I was trying to say in post 15 above. But yours is much more succinct.
They would care if they knew for certain that he had been a deceiver. Soros would be pissed big time for investing all that dough into someone not even eligible lol.
Besides in a matter like this, of this sort, it wouldn’t matter if they didn’t care. As soon as proven without a doubt even to partisans like Chris Mathews, he would be out of office in a day or so.
References:
Pan, M.A., Sir Kensis. 2008. "Bread and Circuses" Juvenile Satires 10:77-81.
Or maybe not. But seriously, how is it that these people cannot see their moment in history has just passed, and that they failed every principle they might have stood for, except of course looking after their own rear ends. Why do we need these "original intent" justices who are simple cowards and the farthest thing from leaders or thinkers anyway?
I would have entitled this piece: “US Supreme Court Declares War on US.”
Well I hadn't thought of it that way, but yes, you appear to be correct, and we're screwed.
No. I've actually never read Pan. Is he good?
I've read some of Juvenal (not into satire but anybody Domitian kicks out of town is worth a read). My favorite sources for the period are Tacitus, Plutarch and Suetonius and when I can stomach him Cicero - great lawyer, lousy writer, or maybe it was just the translator.
Tacitus didn't like the Julio Claudians and detested the Flavians who came after them because they messed with his father in-law. Plutarch was a Greek trying to tell the Romans how Greek they actually were. Suetonius was the Emperor Hadrian's private secretary (at least until he got fired for hitting on the Emperor's wife). Suetonius' history has to be read in the context that it was to a certain extent propaganda directed against the old regime.
Only a handful of ancient sources have survived and all of those has to be understood in terms of the prejudices of the writers. Kind of like modern history.
Welcome to New Kenya! (Africa U.S.A.)
“Where the law of the jungle has replaced the Law of the Land”
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This will be resolved. Peacefully or not.
The United States Supreme Court, by making NO statement on the issues of Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility for the Presidency, has conspired with half of the nation to render the Constitution, the supposedly inviolate code of law protecting each of us, meaningless.
***Interesting proposition, but I take issue with the word “conspired”. The SCOTUS isn’t conspiracy central. If they do not rule on this issue, it’s because they are cowards, not conspirators. They’re hired to preserve & protect the constitution, and they get a lifetime job as the buffer between them and the political fads that cross the nation. But they’re human, and they could easily throw out the baby with the bathwater. Even that lifetime employment thingie might not be enough for them to do the right thing. Half of them right now are possibly putting their fingers to the wind, judging who would riot over this issue. If zer0bama gets DQ’d, the blacks riot and they look bad. If they throw out that one little itty bitty “technicality” in the constitution, they might think that we constitutionalists are not rowdy enough to cross the Rubicon. What they may be neglecting is that by throwing out the constitution, they throw themselves under the same bus.
Caesar was never "emperor" as the term is used now, although he was saluted as imperator (victorious general) by his troops (and that's where the word "emperor" comes from). He crossed the Rubicon in 49 B.C., but that was probably less than 49 years before the birth of Jesus. What doomed the Republic was not so much his crossing the Rubicon but his winning the civil war that followed.
Just wouldn't seem right. Us being us, and them being them and all.
The SC won’t touch this issue in any serious manner. They were really burned by the nasty reaction to the first Bush election decision. (That’s one of the left’s major tactics, BTW. They attack and demonize, and never, never quit attacking and demonizing, to the extent that the object of their attention becomes a LOT more cautious next time around. It works, doesn’t it?) The Supremes simply won’t risk the beating they would take from the left and the left’s toadies in the press and also the potential for riots if they found Obama ineligible to serve as pres. They won’t deal with this, and they don’t care AT ALL what the truth is.
The United States Supreme Court,... has conspired with half of the nation...Usually when someone tells me about a conspiracy that most of the country is in on, they're some medication they forgot to take.
Salve Vergini.
Just think, if I’d gone to Cal 30 years earlier I could have seen those lectures. I don’t remember reading that she lectured there or the manner of her death.
A lot of things led to bringing down down the Republic, probably starting with the Gracci killings, the Sula and Marius proscriptions, etc. The Civil War was just the last act.
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