Jerry Brown urges court to void Prop. 8 (Moonbeam changes position, reverses earlier stance)

ap on Sac Bee ^ | 12/19/08 | Lisa Leff - ap

[NormsRevenge]

SAN FRANCISCO -- California Attorney General Jerry Brown has changed his position with respect to the state's new same-sex marriage ban and is now urging the state Supreme Court to void Proposition 8.

Brown filed a brief Friday saying the measure, which amended the California Constitution to limit marriage to a man and a woman, is itself unconstitutional because it deprives gay couples of a fundamental right.

[apocalypto]

Jerry Brown promised an extensive investigation into the abuse of prescription drugs in the Anna Nicole Smith and her son's suspicious deaths. This was a while ago, and I have yet to hear a peep from Jerry Brown even though there evidence was there. Or have I missed it?

Note to Jerry Brown: How about doing something in the Anna Nicole Smith & Son cases?

[DoughtyOne]

This is essentially Tidy Bowl nation. The Constitution is that little blue thing on the side of the bowl that the left only uses when it suits them. Other than that, it has mostly gone down the drain.

[bootless]

Isn’t it the Atty General’s job to make sure the propositions aren’t unconstitutional before they go on the ballot?

Moonbeam’s not even eligible to serve as AG. A lot of that going around.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

I swear, someone in the Gaystapo has something on him. No one changes positions that quickly and that radically on their own.

Linda Rondstant... He is lucky he never once saw her naked... but that came with a price...

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

What Linda Ronstadt ever saw in him beats me.

Jerry never saw her naked. He was lucky, but it still begs the question why he was ever hooked up with her to begin with...

[xzins]

There is no fundamental right to be married.

It takes another person to agree to a marriage.

Life, libert, pursuing happiness, etc., all can be individually realized. Marriage cannot be individually realized.

[kik5150]

Listen what this assclown did. Attorney General Jerry Brown tried to stack the deck against the November ballot measure barring same-sex marriage by declaring in his formal ballot description that it “eliminates the right of same-sex couples to marry,”. It was originally written to “define marriage as between a man and a woman.”
ALL people have the same rights. If marriage is defined in the traditional sense the no one loses rights, especially considering that they never had these rights to begin with. I do not have the right to marry my mother, sister, father or dog.

[william clark]

Someone should remind Moonbeam that he may still be just a lawsuit away from being removed from office, since he didn’t meet the legal qualifications to run in the first place. Of course, in a Dem-controlled state it’s unlikely that it would happen, but if enough of a stink was raised, who knows? Unfortunately, the California GOP didn’t have the testosterone to push the issue after the Dem judge postponed hearing their lawsuit until after his fraudulent election.

[goldstategop]

Atty Gen. Jerry Brown is pandering to the radical gays. It has to do with his bid for Governor in 2010 and nothing whatsoever to do with Proposition 8 - which he tried to sabotage and now opposes again.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[freedomwarrior998]

We've reached a point in this country where every American must do some serious soul searching. My opinion on this subject is that I have always been a law-abiding citizen because I have respected the idea that the law is an extension of the will of the people, even when I don't agree with a particular law. However, the very moment when I no longer have even the least amount of say in how my own government governs because that government has decided that I am a subject rather than a citizen, I will no longer consider the government to be legitimate. What to do with an illegitimate government is, of course, a question to be discussed in private, but we have a proud history in this country to guide us, and an obligation to carry on a fight that was begun by our forefathers.

Your post is one of the best that I have ever read on a message board. You are EXACTLY right.

[freedomwarrior998]

I don't think many understand how dangerous and insidious Jerry Brown's argument is. He isn't arguing that Prop 8 is a Constitutional Revision. In fact, he conceded in his brief that Prop 8 is a amendment and does not meet the criteria of a revision.

Instead, he is arguing that the will of the California Supreme Court is superior to that of the people. He is claiming that once the unelected judges declare a certain class of people to be a protected class and that their behavior is a "fundamental right" that it can NEVER be amended.

He is literally asking the judges to declare the Constitution Unconstitutional.

[NoRedTape]

Sorry Jerry, but the Will of the People win, you Putz.

Prop 8 is YES.

You lose, DinkBag. (Yes, I'm a CA Native).

[goldstategop]

Why are you surprised? California's Democrats have no respect for the state's highest law. Not on taxes. And not on traditional marriage. They are the law and what they say goes. California has a government of men and not of laws.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[freedomwarrior998]

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...[W]hen a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

[Liberal Bob]

This is a religious question, what ever happen to the separation of church and state?

[expatguy]

Im confused - so someone please help.

This is the way I see things...

Couples don't get married ... individuals do.

One married, they become a couple.

All individuals can get married.

Where is the problem?

[goldstategop]

The problem is same sex marriage threatens religious freedom and traditional values. If its bigotry to oppose the marriage of two men or two women, its only a short step to rendering other religious beliefs beyond the pale. The radical gay lobby is not interested in a compromise. And where moral absolutes are concerned, no compromise can be possible.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Old Retired Army Guy]

You’re living in California which is pretty close to a cartoon.

[personalaccts]

who to tick off? 7 out of 10 blacks or hispanics or all the gays? He figured the blacks and hispanics will vote for him anyway.

[dbz77]

Here is a quote from someone who knows more about the law than the attorney general.

"Another Hastings professor, Calvin Massey, invoked the court's 1978 ruling upholding the death penalty as a reason that the Prop. 8 challenge should fail. "'I can't think of any more fundamental right than to not have my government put me to death,' he said. 'That was found to be an amendment, not a revision."