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1 posted on 12/19/2008 8:26:38 AM PST by Stoat
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To: Stoat

About damn time.


2 posted on 12/19/2008 8:28:19 AM PST by zarodinu
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To: Stoat

It seems like a better match between the punishment and the crime.


3 posted on 12/19/2008 8:29:31 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Stoat
So....instead of suing everyone in sight, they're going to have ISP's spy on your packets and forward your name to the RIAA.

THAT'S a winning change.

4 posted on 12/19/2008 8:31:29 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Stoat

No mention of the key points that are required (e.g. damages for false accusation on a level equivalent to the damages extracted from an actual infringer who gets caught).


8 posted on 12/19/2008 8:37:13 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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“Meanwhile, music sales continue to fall. In 2003, the industry sold 656 million albums. In 2007, the number fell to 500 million CDs and digital albums, plus 844 million paid individual song downloads — hardly enough to make up the decline in album sales.”

- They are suffering the same fate as the car companies, people don’t want to buy their over-priced crappy products anymore. Maybe they’ll get a bailout too.


10 posted on 12/19/2008 8:38:29 AM PST by Troll_House_Cookies (Ironically, Chancellor Obama's first re-education camp will be in Alaska.)
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To: Stoat

Hardcore uploaders/downloaders will start using software which blocks their IP address. There are so many occasional downloaders that the ISP won’t be able (or even want to, for financial reasons) to go after them. And if music sales are tanking, the main reason is the awful quality of what passes for popular music these days.


12 posted on 12/19/2008 8:41:57 AM PST by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: Stoat

I’m no fan of Oprah, but she is giving away Christmas music downloads on her site, if anyone is interested. http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahshow/20081118_tows_holiday/2


13 posted on 12/19/2008 8:43:13 AM PST by llmc1 ( Merry Christmas!)
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To: Stoat

Great, now ISPs are going to be spying on us even more.


17 posted on 12/19/2008 8:50:31 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Stoat

I realized a while back that the industry’s approach to intellectual property disturbed me on a level well below my intellectual understanding of the legal issues: these guys were determined to extract every penny they could from their “property” - if they could find a way to make you pay a licensing fee to on their tunes they would cheerfully do so - and the resulting legal battles and copyright technologies and general level of inconvenience and unpleasantness just eventually turned me off to recorded music entirely, I rarely buy anything these days, and when I do I buy it used on CD on Amazon.


18 posted on 12/19/2008 8:51:32 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: Stoat

RIAA= useless sack of shiite lawyers & money grubbers.

I’m not affected because the most I ever do is once or twice a year rip a CD I check out from the library. Windows media player is always happy to do this. Then I make my own CD from it and/or put a few tunes on my cheapo MP3 player to hear when taking a walk


24 posted on 12/19/2008 9:00:01 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: Stoat

They could do what they did under Clinton, put a homosexual copyright lawyer who’s their guy in charge of the PTO, and, while wrecking the patent system further, focus only preventing folks in the hinterlands of places like Peru and Indonesia from using technology.

Who needs more Edisons when we have Babs Streisand?


32 posted on 12/19/2008 9:44:56 AM PST by AmericanVictory
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Depending on the agreement, the ISP will either forward the note to customers, or alert customers that they appear to be uploading music illegally, and ask them to stop. If the customers continue the file-sharing, they will get one or two more emails, perhaps accompanied by slower service from the provider. Finally, the ISP may cut off their access altogether.

 Adminicat

33 posted on 12/19/2008 9:56:19 AM PST by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat
The RIAA said it has agreements in principle with some ISPs, but declined to say which ones. But ISPs, which are increasingly cutting content deals of their own with entertainment companies, may have more incentive to work with the music labels now than in previous years.

Sounds like the industry is hoping to bribe ISP's to cooperate with them.

40 posted on 12/19/2008 10:55:30 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Stoat; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

43 posted on 12/19/2008 11:31:33 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Stoat

I have a feeling the Justice Dept, the FBI CIA and NSA and MI6 and Interpol is going to stop this dead in it’s tracks.

The I2P network encapsulation technologies are in stillborn infancy at the moment. HOWEVER if 100,000 warez and p2p coders tackle the I2P problems simultaneously and create a truly anonymous high level encryption software package that becomes popular with MAINSTREAM internet users, the intelligence agencies will be completely disarmed in the ongoing cat and mouse games against actual criminal networks, such as money, weapons, drug, and human traffickers and foreign counter intelligence.

If Tor/I2P/Freenet/GNUnet have another few million nodes because p2p users migrate to those I2P networks, the whole world changes and no digital content will be traceable to it’s source or destination.

Tor/I2P/Freenet/GNUnet nodes in Europe are legal even if the node has child porn move through it. If another 2,000,000 early adopters set up nodes, it’s all over, the law enforcement of the world will have to force coup d’etats in order to nationalize the telecommunications infrastructure, or they can start mass arresting millions of users who set up nodes.


44 posted on 12/19/2008 12:32:22 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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ISPs will always be the point of enforcement. Whether it’s hunting down media free-loaders, terrorist plots, illegal drug deals or kiddie porn. The ISPs should try and seek some sort of immunity from future litigation immediately. ‘Course we could all go on Big Brother’s free internet - coming soon to a city near you. ;-)


46 posted on 12/19/2008 1:00:01 PM PST by rhombus
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To: Stoat
If the customers continue the file-sharing, they will get one or two more emails, perhaps accompanied by slower service from the provider. Finally, the ISP may cut off their access altogether.

Yet, they will do nothing about the millions of windows-based botnets out there spewing spam into my inbox.

60 posted on 12/19/2008 8:40:39 PM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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Copy of RIAA's new enforcement notice to ISPs Digital Media - CNET News

 

RIAA's New Piracy Plan Poses a New Set of Problems - washingtonpost.com

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Effectively, RIAA has turned itself into the sheriff, and your ISP into its deputy. Based on the same data gathering and user identification methods that have come under fire from the start, RIAA will now be able to get your Internet access limited or discontinued on its own if it for some reason flags you as an illegal filesharer. And I'm not the only one left feeling a little wary about that.

"This means more music fans are going to be harassed by the music industry," saysFred von Lohmann, senior staff attorney of the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

"The problem is the lack of due process for those accused," von Lohmann continues. "In a world where hundreds of thousands, or millions, of copyright infringement allegations are automatically generated and delivered to ISPs, mistakes are going to be made. ... Anyone who has ever had to fight to correct an error on their credit reports will be able to imagine the trouble we're in for."

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69 posted on 12/20/2008 9:29:29 AM PST by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

“If the customers continue the file-sharing, they will get one or two more emails, perhaps accompanied by slower service from the provider”

Fascist.


74 posted on 01/11/2009 4:02:14 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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