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Going down down down down Crude Oil 38.59 -1.47
Kitco ^ | Dec 18 2008 | Kitco

Posted on 12/18/2008 10:18:13 AM PST by dennisw

Crude is down no matter what OPEC does Because no matter what promises each member makes to limit production and reduce production......

You have a situation where where each OPEC member has to pump and sell much much more to pay for their hare brained schemes. Hugo Chavez and Ahmadinejad come to mind. Pooty is hurting too


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bubblin; bubbling; bublin; crude; energy; jethro; oil; screwhugo; screwopec; screwpooty
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1 posted on 12/18/2008 10:18:14 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

-—”those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it”—


2 posted on 12/18/2008 10:19:58 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: dennisw
Indexes
Index data delayed 30 min.
updown

 DJIA

8,766.20

-58.14
alt

 NASDAQ

1,579.40

+0.09
alt

 RUSSELL

487.27

+0.68
alt

 GOX

123.34

-9.21
alt

 NYSE

5,737.54

-32.26
alt

 

79.93

+1.37
alt

 HUI

277.90

-14.05
alt

 NIKKEI

8,667.23

+54.71
alt

 JSE

2,182.48

-195.75
alt   38.59 -1.47
Charts..

3 posted on 12/18/2008 10:20:10 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw

They can drink it for all I care. Swim in it. We need to get after the drilling and really bury OPEC.


4 posted on 12/18/2008 10:21:39 AM PST by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: rellimpank

”those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it”—

History is written by the winners..........


5 posted on 12/18/2008 10:22:11 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: dennisw

Que the AP stories on how low gas prices are bad for America.

Dollar high: No one is buying our stuff!
Dollar low: Things are too expensive!
House values high: The American dream is out of reach!
House values low: Americans are losing trillions in equity!
Warm day: GLOBAL WARMING!
Cold day: Global Warming!


6 posted on 12/18/2008 10:22:18 AM PST by icwhatudo
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To: rellimpank
-—”those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it”—

I remember all the times in the past that OPEC couldn't make productions cuts stick
What else can you expect from thieves and megalomaniacs and the hypnotized by a phony allah?

7 posted on 12/18/2008 10:22:20 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw
Looking for a foreign made car that gets better fuel mileage myself. The old Cat is leaving!!
8 posted on 12/18/2008 10:23:38 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: icwhatudo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2149223/posts


9 posted on 12/18/2008 10:24:39 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: dennisw

I think today the Jan futures contracts expire and get rolled to Feb.

You are showing the Jan price but the Feb price is about $4.50 higher.

The Feb price is the real one, currently 43.73 vs 39.17 for Jan.

This happens every month, yet the morons reporting on the financial channels never seem to mention it. They just report the expiring price.


10 posted on 12/18/2008 10:25:40 AM PST by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: dennisw

I thought the Dow and Crude prices usually moved in opposite directions.


11 posted on 12/18/2008 10:26:08 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: dennisw
Crude is going to $17 quickly. I said in July [documented] that we were putting in a 17 year high and that we would return to $40.00 [Goldman, the same week called for $200.00].

I know that OPEC is cutting supplies trying to boost it to $75.00. It won't happen. These guys have lost a crap load of revenue [and they cheat each other]. With a slowing global demand, price has to follow demand. That causes the seller to sell even more to meet revenue needs. More supply pushes prices even lower. I say $17 first, followed by a $20-$30 range.

The only thing that scares me about my call is that Merrill is now calling for $30.00

12 posted on 12/18/2008 10:26:16 AM PST by ignorancerunsrampant (Where is the Court of Common Sense?)
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To: icwhatudo

your AP key is accurate, but will change once the 0bama administration starts


13 posted on 12/18/2008 10:26:18 AM PST by sten
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To: org.whodat

My Toyota still gets ~43 MPG on the road and 38-39 in town.


14 posted on 12/18/2008 10:26:32 AM PST by unkus
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To: dennisw; All

The oil market already priced in the cuts, so now they shrug.

Just like they did the last time cuts were made.

However, gas better go down again. It went up before the meeting since oil was going up (though frankly, the increase was unjustified.......oil went up before the last OPEC meeting and gas still went DOWN, not up). They were screwing with us last week jumping the pump prices.

But anyway, OPEC just doesn’t have the impact it used to have.


15 posted on 12/18/2008 10:27:25 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Red Badger

That’s why these phonies call it “climate change” now instead of “global warming”

My take is global warming was just another mania of the era is getting deflated as we speak. Deflation means return to rationality


16 posted on 12/18/2008 10:28:24 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw
Interesting news.

I had a bet with my boss last summer . . . I said the price of oil would hit $20/barrel before it ever hit $200/barrel. The winner of the bet gets a billion dollars.

Neither one of us has anything close to a billion dollars, mind you . . . but it would be nice to win the bet anyway. :-P

17 posted on 12/18/2008 10:30:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: dennisw

I may win that bet yet... getting mighty close.


18 posted on 12/18/2008 10:33:45 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: rwfromkansas
Oil is used to make plastic.

Plastic is a major portion of many of the items which aren't being made or sold right now.

Probably industry demand for oil is down even more than gasoline sales.

$1 a gallon gasoline would get people moving again.When one had to think about every little trip costing $5 to $10 in fuel, many of us cut down our trips.

19 posted on 12/18/2008 10:34:33 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: bankwalker

http://www.nymex.com/index.aspx

NYMEX list crude at $39.52.... now $39.41
Might be a delay on that quote


20 posted on 12/18/2008 10:35:10 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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