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Four really, really bad scenarios
Politico ^ | 12/17/2008 | Eamon Javers

Posted on 12/17/2008 11:32:28 PM PST by iowamark

What’s the worst that could happen?

That’s a question that James Rickards spends a lot of time pondering these days, as he sifts through the national security implications of the financial crisis facing the United States.

Rickards will lay out his worst case scenarios in a lecture sponsored by the Navy and the Office of the Secretary of Defense for Policy tonight. And his forecasts aren’t for the faint of heart.

Rickards calls it the “A to Z” problem: What are the threats that could make the U.S. economy look less like America and more like Zimbabwe? He sees them everywhere – in the Chinese ownership of vast amounts of American debt, in Russia’s increased centralization of its economy, in Al Qaeda’s long-established fascination with damaging the U.S. economy.

In many ways, Rickards is the ultimate bear. He’s not just thinking about whether the stock market will decline, but whether or not the stock market will survive.

All that puts Rickards decidedly outside mainstream economic and political thinking in America. But he does have an influential audience: the United States intelligence and defense communities.

Rickards is a regular adviser on financial issues to the director of national intelligence's office, and he lends his financial advice to the national security community.

His lecture comes as part of an annual “Rethinking Seminar” produced by the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory. Rickards argues that government is not doing nearly enough to prepare for the worst. “Here’s the policy problem for the United States,” he said in an interview. “We have experts in defense and intelligence, and huge depth in capital markets experience at the Fed and at Treasury. But they’re separated by the Potomac River. And they’re not talking to each other.”

Rickards came by his economic experience the hard way. He was the general counsel at Long Term Capital Management, the hedge fund that collapsed in spectacular fashion in the late 1990s and nearly took the global economy along with it. That near-economic death experience gave him a healthy appreciation for risk. Today, he’s the senior managing director for research at Omnis, an applied research firm.

Four of the scenarios keep him up at night:

The Bait Effect

Terrorists, and al Qaeda in particular, are fascinated with the idea of destroying the U.S. economy. Rickards worries that the economic meltdown in the United States could serve as bait of sorts for a terrorist attack, as plotters calculate that a strike now could have a “force multiplier” effect because of the already skittish U.S. stock market.

The China Syndrome

The Chinese own more than $500 billion worth of U.S. Treasury bonds, and billons more in the debt of other U.S. entities such as those held by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. And a general sense of mutually assured financial destruction keeps them from wielding that debt like a weapon: if the Chinese dumped U.S. debt on the global market, their own holdings of U.S. debt would decline in value, the U.S. economy would be damaged, ultimately harming the Chinese economy by reducing American ability to buy more Chinese goods.

They’d have to be crazy to try it. But Rickards points out that governments don’t always do the rational thing. And in the meantime, their holdings give the Chinese incredible power over American decision making.

“It gives the Chinese de facto veto power over certain U.S. interest rate and exchange rate decisions,” Rickards explained. “For example, there’s a limit to how much dollar depreciation the Chinese would tolerate.”

That potentially closes off one American economic strategy: allowing the dollar to decline in value in order to help boost U.S. exporters. And China’s leverage is only growing as each federal bailout adds to the U.S. deficit.

The Existential Crash

A pessimist by nature, Rickards believes that many economic forecasters are wrong, and the recession will get far worse than predicted.

He sees an epic disaster scenario in which the U.S. gross domestic product declines by a staggering 35 percent over the next six to seven years. Crippling deflation could take hold. Unemployment, he says, could approach 15 percent.

That’s a calamitous rate, but it would not be an all-time high: unemployment hit 25 percent during the Great Depression.

“The national security community needs to be conversant with this,” Rickards said. “In defense, intelligence, and national security, you earn your money by preparing for things that may be remote, but pose an existential threat if they come to pass.”

In this scenario, the possibilities for global unrest increase dramatically as a staggering United States retreats from foreign aid and global diplomacy and the list of dangerous failed states grows sharply.

The Alternate-Dollar Nightmare

“The Number One vulnerability is the dollar itself,” Rickards concluded. “We’re printing them and shoving them out the door, and the Fed is basically out of bullets. So why hasn’t the dollar collapsed? The short answer is, global investors don’t have any other choice.” That is, there simply aren’t enough Euro- or Yen-backed securities for investors to shift their money out of dollars and into some other currency.

But what if some kind of global coalition – say a trillion-dollar sovereign wealth fund allied with several countries around the world – banded together to create a gold-backed alternative to the dollar?

Rickards says investors – many of whom already resent that they have no alternative to the dollar – would sell American currency in huge numbers to take advantage of the new opportunity. “If that happens, that’s the end of the dollar,” Rickards said. “You’d have high unemployment, deflation, and interest rates would go up. It would take what already looks like a strong recession and make it a Great Depression or worse.”

Still, even Rickards sees a silver lining to all this. He looks around the world to the problems facing other countries such as Russia, China, Iran, and those in the Middle East.

“There are vulnerabilities for the United States, but also opportunities,” he said. “I’d rather be the United States than any of these other countries.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: business; economy; financialcrisis; recession
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To: djf; NVDave; dennisw; TigerLikesRooster
This reminds me of a discussion about tomorrow's deck chair arrangements on the Titanic.

More pertinent are questions about lifeboat seats.

41 posted on 12/18/2008 5:11:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: djf

AMEN to what you said!!! You want this “crisis” to be over? Let the bad banks fail, the bad business fail, people go bankrupt who extended themselves. Painful? Yes, but needed or we ALL go under.


42 posted on 12/18/2008 5:14:56 AM PST by Mrsgell
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To: sten

also WWII was won not because we had superior technology but because we could out-manufacture the rest of the world. And where does that leave us today?


43 posted on 12/18/2008 5:14:57 AM PST by vanilla swirl
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To: seastay

Look what one little board in California (CARB) can bring in with pollution fines:

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS291US303&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=carb+fines+for+violations


44 posted on 12/18/2008 5:16:12 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Join us on the best FR thread, 8000+ posts: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts)
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To: iowamark

They say a civilization, like a brain, is a delicate mechanism.


45 posted on 12/18/2008 5:23:22 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Problem id'd, opinion keyed in...now, what will you DO about it?)
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To: jsh3180

Thanks for that Panic of 73 post.


46 posted on 12/18/2008 5:27:21 AM PST by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1
The NWO is what this all about. Many countries failed to get in line so they are being forced through economic hardship to line up.
47 posted on 12/18/2008 5:28:21 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: djf
Obama ... But he doesn’t have the power to cause or prevent the problems - he was basically a freakin bystander.

Not strictly true.

Back in his glory days as a "community organizer", he extorted loans from banks on behalf of people who had no way whatsoever of ever hoping to pay them back, thus helping set the stage for our current predicament.

48 posted on 12/18/2008 5:54:20 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: iowamark

Welcome to New Kenya (Africa U.S.A.)

“Where the law of the jungle has replaced the Law of the Land”

What a Mess!


49 posted on 12/18/2008 5:54:42 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Welcome to New Kenya (Africa U.S.A.).......

We got a big ol funky African style dictator of our own now. Wait for socialism done African style with all kinds of white,black,brown,oriental dumbasses loving it. Mugabe started out good


50 posted on 12/18/2008 6:20:35 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: Travis McGee

Al Qaeada must be retarded because two well placed dirty bombs (I’m not saying where) would crash the stock market and other markets. Just magnify the white powder anthrax scares by 100,000x


51 posted on 12/18/2008 6:23:43 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: djf
Another thing - we hear big news about a 50B fraud. But is that all?

Anytime you study numbers, you learn the distributions - the bell curve.

For every big chunk of something, you usually have many, many more times the amount of smaller chunks.

So if somebody hears about a 100M fraud now, they’ll just say “Hey, that’s peanuts” even though for every 50B fraud you have, there are probably literally a thousand 500M frauds.

Sorry but I've been thinking the same
Lets say Madoff is the biggest
There must be hundreds of mini-Madoff's out there
Who started out honest but then turned Ponzi because they couldn't bear to tell the truth their wife, their associates, their country club, their synagogue or church. Plus they loved the money. Worshipped the golden calf

File this one under---

                                           END OF AN ERA!

52 posted on 12/18/2008 6:31:41 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: John W
“Where is Sarbanes-Oxley?”

Do we like SarbOx on FR now?

SarbOX is BS but the law must be applied equally. Get it now?

53 posted on 12/18/2008 6:34:11 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw

“Get it now?”

Go back to bed and start over.


54 posted on 12/18/2008 6:36:58 AM PST by John W (Voters were more afraid of losing their money than losing their souls.)
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To: NVDave

People here on FR claiming to be scared of the financial consequences of Obama might as well hang it up. Bush has set the stage for socialism to run amok, and is busy socializing the economy before he even leaves office, mostly through administrative fiat.

*******
This is true!! People are going to have to understand this is not a Republican...Democrat thing. We are ALL Americans and America is being put through the shredder! But that is ok..just keep fighting among yourselves over the petty things while this country is flushed down the toilet. It is ALL of US against a government that is growing more Beast like every day!!


55 posted on 12/18/2008 6:41:46 AM PST by briarbey b
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To: dennisw

Al Qaeada must be retarded because two well placed dirty bombs (I’m not saying where) would crash the stock market and other markets. Just magnify the white powder anthrax scares by 100,000x

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Maybe they are waiting for a much bigger target. They are patient...very patient. Jan. worries me. 5 million people converging on D.C. A security nightmare. Something could have been planted 4 yrs. ago just waiting for the right cell phone. What can I say??? Its hard to think like a terrorist when you aren’t one! LOL


56 posted on 12/18/2008 6:50:35 AM PST by briarbey b
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To: iowamark
The Bait Effect - Terrorists... calculate that a strike now could have a “force multiplier” effect because of the already skittish U.S. stock market.

The US reaction to 9-11 wasn't fear and paralysis. Markets were functioning within days. The 9-11 tragedy united Americans and put our best qualities on the world stage. It worked against radical Islamist. That should give them pause.

57 posted on 12/18/2008 7:05:05 AM PST by GOPJ (Gun Control-:- like trying to control stray dogs by neutering veterinarians.- G. Jonas)
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To: iowamark
The China Syndrome - The Chinese own more than $500 billion worth of U.S. Treasury bonds, ... mutually assured financial destruction keeps them from wielding that debt like a weapon:

This one's bad. In the short run they would be hurt by taking us down - in the long run they might be stronger. And the Chinese can afford to take a long term view - their power class doesn't have to worry about being voted out of office. Solutions need to be found.

58 posted on 12/18/2008 7:11:29 AM PST by GOPJ (Gun Control-:- like trying to control stray dogs by neutering veterinarians.- G. Jonas)
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To: iowamark
The China Syndrome - The Chinese own more than $500 billion worth of U.S. Treasury bonds, ... mutually assured financial destruction keeps them from wielding that debt like a weapon:

This one's bad. In the short run they would be hurt by taking us down - in the long run they might be stronger. And the Chinese can afford to take a long term view - their power class doesn't have to worry about being voted out of office. Solutions need to be found.

59 posted on 12/18/2008 7:11:44 AM PST by GOPJ (Gun Control-:- like trying to control stray dogs by neutering veterinarians.- G. Jonas)
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To: iowamark
what if some kind of global coalition – say a trillion-dollar sovereign wealth fund allied with several countries around the world – banded together to create a gold-backed alternative to the dollar?

We would lose the ability to inflate our way out of our debt - with dire consequences. Or we could "join" in the new currency - only to lose slowly rather than quickly... This one's been talked about...

60 posted on 12/18/2008 7:20:27 AM PST by GOPJ (Gun Control-:- like trying to control stray dogs by neutering veterinarians.- G. Jonas)
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