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India stuck with 23 pirates caught in Gulf of Aden
The Times of India ^ | December 16, 2008 | The Times of India

Posted on 12/16/2008 10:07:26 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins

NEW DELHI: The Navy is all at sea about what to do with the 23 pirates and the large cache of arms captured by missile destroyer INS Mysore during anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden on Saturday.

"The Indian government is trying to tie up things with Yemen to ensure the 23 pirates, 12 of whom are Somali and 11 Yemeni, can be handed over to it. But if that does not work, we might have to bring them back to India for prosecution here,'' said a senior defence ministry official.

Britain, US and some other countries, incidentally, have signed an MoU with Kenya for arrest, transfer and prosecution of pirates detained by their warships during anti-piracy operations in Gulf of Aden. On November 18, for instance, the British Navy had handed over eight pirates to Kenya to face trial at the port town of Mombasa.

But with India having no such MoU or arrangement with countries in the region, the question of the 23 pirates on board INS Mysore, which thwarted their hijack attempt on an Ethiopian merchant vessel on Saturday, remains an unanswered one.

The piquant situation that INS Mysore finds itself has arisen as the "rules of engagement'' issued to the warship before it set sail to replace stealth frigate INS Tabar on anti-piracy patrol duties in the Gulf of Aden does not specify the course of action if it seizes a pirate vessel and pirates.

Frantic efforts are now underway in both the defence as well as the external affairs ministry to get a foreign port to accept the bandits for trial in their courts. "The issue may be resolved in a day or two. Meanwhile, the 23 pirates are being fed on INS Mysore,'' said an official.

Though over 20 warships from US, EU and other countries are patrolling the piracy-infested Gulf of Aden, which connects the Red Sea to the Indian Ocean, it's actually the Indian Navy which has taken the battle to the pirates.

On November 11, INS Tabar had repulsed two hijack attempts, one on a Indian ship (MV Jag Arnav) and the other on a Saudi oil carrier (NCC Tihama), one after the other successfully.

Then, on November 18, it had sunk Thai trawler "Ekawat Nava 5'', which had been commandeered by pirates, after a gunbattle. Though Navy had come in for some criticism for sinking the Thai trawler, Admiral Sureesh Mehta had declared that his force had done nothing wrong.

"Thai ownership does not change the situation. It was under the command of pirates. Use of force was inevitable... we acted in self-defence,'' said the Navy chief. External affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee, too, had strongly defend the Navy's anti-piracy action on the high seas.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: india; islam; mohammedanism; mohammedanism1208; mohammedanism122008; piracy; somalia
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1 posted on 12/16/2008 10:07:28 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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Frantic efforts are now underway in both the defence as well as the external affairs ministry to get a foreign port to accept the bandits for trial in their courts. "The issue may be resolved in a day or two. Meanwhile, the 23 pirates are being fed on INS Mysore,'' said an official.
2 posted on 12/16/2008 10:09:04 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

The ocean is deep and rocks are cheap.


3 posted on 12/16/2008 10:09:10 AM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

It's called "the plank". Use it. They'll learn the lesson.

4 posted on 12/16/2008 10:09:13 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspell)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

—shoot them as they are tossed overboard—


5 posted on 12/16/2008 10:09:23 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Shoot, Sink and Shut-up


6 posted on 12/16/2008 10:09:29 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
"Where are the pirates, Master Chief?"

"I don't know, sir, we seem to have misplaced them."

faint cries and splashing in the distance....

"Carry on, Chief."

7 posted on 12/16/2008 10:11:17 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Got Rope?

or

23 Uses for an Old Chain.


8 posted on 12/16/2008 10:11:41 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

9 posted on 12/16/2008 10:12:06 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

I say pull up as close to shore in Somalia as possible, as close to the largest population center where the most people can see, and hang the bastards one by one. Once they are dead, cut the rope and dump them at sea...either that or float some buoys off the coast and hang them there. Leave the bodies to rot for all to see. The piracy will end.


10 posted on 12/16/2008 10:12:17 AM PST by rottndog (If the left understood and obeyed the 10th Commandment, maybe they would obey the 10th Amendment!)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Shark food? target practice?... just some suggestions.


11 posted on 12/16/2008 10:12:33 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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Easy. Put them before the mast, give them a trial using the captain as judge, appointed officers as prosecutor and defense. Use the crew members as a jury.

If guilty hang them. If not guilty release them immediately over the side. ;)

12 posted on 12/16/2008 10:12:35 AM PST by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Next time, don’t take prisoners dummies. As far as the guys you have...It’s a big Ocean. Use your imagination. Wasn’t there a time when Piracy on the high seas was grounds for “keel hauling” or at the minimum, summary execution?


13 posted on 12/16/2008 10:15:04 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Shoot them.


14 posted on 12/16/2008 10:16:21 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (SARAH *** JOE *** 2012!)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Aaarrrrggh. The plank is what they should be walkin’!


15 posted on 12/16/2008 10:17:01 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
the "rules of engagement'' issued to the warship before it set sail to replace stealth frigate INS Tabar on anti-piracy patrol duties in the Gulf of Aden does not specify the course of action if it seizes a pirate vessel and pirates

Well, duh. The disposition of captured enemy persons and material is not part of the rules of engagement -- RoE are for how and when one fights battles, not what one does afterwards.

Last time I looked, piracy on the high seas was considered to be a "crime of universal jurisdiction" -- i.e. any nation that takes custody of pirates can prosecute them. The only legal issue here is a fair trial to establish whether or not the prisoners are, in fact, pirates. Extraditing them to their home country may be a worthwhile courtesy, but it is not essential.

16 posted on 12/16/2008 10:17:33 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Hang them.


17 posted on 12/16/2008 10:18:22 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Yes, take them back to India and have them fitted for cement shoes. Then take them out to the 12 mile limit off of Bombay and see how they do walking on water. Amen.


18 posted on 12/16/2008 10:18:48 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

They should take them out to the middle of the IO and let them go.


19 posted on 12/16/2008 10:18:49 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: SMARTY
Shark food? target practice?... just some suggestions.

Weighted Shark Trot Line ... Mmmmmm Sharks, 'ems good eatin'

20 posted on 12/16/2008 10:19:08 AM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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