Posted on 12/15/2008 10:48:10 AM PST by kellynla
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has turned down another challenge to Barack Obama's eligibility to serve president because of his citizenship.
The appeal by Cort Wrotnowski of Greenwich, Conn., was denied Monday without comment.
Wrotnowski argued that Obama was a British subject at birth and therefore cannot meet the requirement for becoming president.
He wanted the high court to halt presidential electors from meeting to formally elect Obama as president.
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It has been detailed on other threads. Congress receives and counts the electoral votes. At this point any Senator AND Representative can challenge votes. If this is done the Congress devolves to the respective Houses for debate.
This was attempted in 2000 but no Senators or Reps would make the challenge. In 1876 there were two slates of electors presented by Florida (I think) and Congress had to decide which one was legitimate.
In addition, the States must certify and transmitt the votes and the certifying official can be challenged if s/he has just rubber stamped the proceedings. There are several cases before state courts dealing with this aspect of the process.
But the claim that Obama is ineligible because his father was Kenyan is absurd. IF he was born in Hawaii he is eligible even if his father was Klingon.
So terrorism works for you?
I live in his hometown and, if he is ineligible, stop him and let the consequences come. If he is allowed to take power without being eligibile the nation is finished and is just another fraud.
Why do some of these cases argue that Zero is ineligible because O Senior was a British subject?
The far stronger case is that Zero was born in Kenya, then taken to Hawaii, where the mother knew she could get a BC for Zero even though he was born outside the USA.
For those who think he was born in Hawaii, and his only disqualification would be his father’s homeland.....the far more substantial and likely scenario is that Zero was actually born on foreign soil! Geez, if I thought he was hatched in Hawaii, I’d be OK with that! I am sure he was hatched in Kenya however, and I have a major problem with THAT. A foreign born person CANNOT be the POTUS!
Who has a case pending that asserts that? Keyes maybe?
It's very implausible. What could they possibly have gained from it? What girl in her right mind would fly to a third world country, in 1961 no less, to give birth, when she has several perfectly good, modern hospitals in Honolulu to choose from?
It's possible, I suppose, but very unlikely.
Admittedly that would entail some degree of difficulty. but airplanes flew quite well even in 1961.
Yes, degree of difficulty. Talk about an understatement. It would have involved an incredible amount of hassle, not to mention expense, and neither of Obama's parents were people of means.
And for what?
That's a cogent summary of our plight. I am not a happy camper right now.
Obama’s baby daddy’s rank in the Luo tribe gave him access to wealth. Remember, Papa Obama was also a Harvard Law graduate (later on)!
You missed my point. I am not arguing that naturalized means natural born. I agree that if he were naturalized, he would not be eligible to be president.
I was simply responding to an allegation that his mother called in the birth announcement to make it look like he was born in the USA in order to qualify him for welfare. My point was simply that he did not have to be natural born in order to qualify for welfare benefits, and hence his mother didn't have any incentive to try to make it look like he was born in the US, unless she were somehow forseeing the possibility that he might want to run for president.
I believe we have just had a coup d'etat
That's funny. You're talking about a tribe whose members live in huts. Lots of wealth there!
I have yet to address the welfare eligibility issue. So far I’ve escaped it. But if you want to debate welfare, note that the law was different in 1961.
Yes, idiocy.
Educate yourself on the difference between a statutory declaration of citizenship, and natural born citizenship. There is uncertainty regarding his mother’s status: where she lived, and when;
No there is not.
how long she was in the US; whether she gave up US citizenship by marrying an Indonesian citizen and moving to her husband’s country of origin; etc.
First of all, that happened after he was born, so it is completely irrelevant to his status.
Second of all, you don't lose citizenship by marrying a foriegner and moving abroad.
To have lost her citizenship, she would have had to renounce it in front of a consular official, and there's nothing to indicate she did that, nor is it even pluasible.
If it were not so, then Obama would not be working so hard to conceal ALL his documentation.
What evidence do you have that he is in fact working hard to do this?
Naturalized citizens have all the same rights, and have had access to all the same government programs as natural born citizens.
The only difference is that naturalized citizens can't run for president.
The reason I brought this up is that some people on this thread have be saying that Obama's mom tried to fake his birth in the US so that she could get him citizenship, which in turn would give him access to the rights of citizenship, as well as welfare. This argument is absurd because you don't need to be a natural born citizen to get these things. A naturalized citizen can get them too, and it is very easy for a citizen mother to naturalize her child. This was just as true in 1961 as it is today.
The only reason Obama's mother would have to fake his birth in the US is if she had the incredile foresight to imagine him running for president.
He’d have been an illegal alien.
Upholding the Constitution is insanity?
Barry O is an American citizen
Zero admitted he was a British-American citizen; his father was a British subject. Constitution forbids dual-citizenship.
born in America
Born in Mombasa, Kenya per paternal Grandmother, Kenyan Ambassdor, and dozens of other family members
to an American mother.
That in itself is questionable, believe it or not. There are reports that she is alive in NYC.
Obamunism 101: The Stanley Ann and Madelyn Dunham Factor
His birth was announced and published a day or two after the fact in a Hawaiian paper, as is usually the case after a birth.
Anyone can publish a birth announcement in any newsrag.
Do you really think that his parents had him in Africa and then had the fore site to know that he would some day run for President, so they had an announcement of his birth published in an Hawaiian newspaper, to make it look like he was born there?
Do you really believe how obtuse you are in light of the overwhelming facts and extensive discussion posted here on the subject since mid-summer?
The guy is not going to be disqualified by birth, no matter how much you huff or puff about it.
Fine by me. Any law, regulation or decree he signs is automatically void.
BTW - What are you puffing? Hawaiian Gold
As opposed to crack cocaine and meth that you're doing?
ROFL! His mother was a citizen, for crying out loud! Even the stricter pre-1964 immigration laws made it easy for a mother to bring her infant son into the country!
You still haven't answered the question of why on earth the Obama's would have gone through the considerable trouble and expense to fly a preganant woman, half way around the world, in a DC-8 to give birth in a third world country.
Barack Sr. was an exchange student on a full scholarship. His father was a cook. I mean, come on. Doesn't this strike as the least bit absurd?
Really? Where?
If Sarah Palin won't release her medical records, the American public must assume that Trig is Bristol's baby.
See the similarity?
I am not sure what, if anything, Obama is hiding. It may be that he derives his power from secrecy (i.e., Obama exposing records would be like Samson cutting his hair.) I think Obama is sick enough to do this.
We will just wait until the Chinese and/or Russians start using this info to blackmail “the one”.
It's a two-fer we're dealing with. Moma wasn't old enough and the baby-daddy was a foreigner.
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