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Obama deemed qualified by birth for presidency
RenewAmerica ^ | December 11, 2008 | By Wes Vernon

Posted on 12/13/2008 3:20:49 AM PST by GonzoII

Barack Obama's upcoming presidency gives many reasons for conservatives to be concerned. All the more reason that we stick to substantive provable issues, as opposed to chasing such illusive rainbows as his alleged lack of a birth certificate. Such preoccupation adds to the bad name already accorded legitimate "conspiracy theories."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; devoidoffacts; editorial; election08; obama; senile; speculation
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To: GonzoII
Obama deemed qualified by birth for presidency

Total crap!

Read this. Even a liberal can understand it.

The Natural Born Citizen Chart


21 posted on 12/13/2008 4:32:02 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: BluH2o

“whether or not he registered as a foreign student.”

Interesting.


22 posted on 12/13/2008 4:32:52 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: stockpirate

The truth is Obama is ineligible.
The truth is Obama is part of this chicago dirty political machine.

The REALITY is there is no way this country will remove him now from office because this country will NOT remove the first elected Black president. The REALITY is there would be mass riots and cities burning like we have never seen.

We are in dark days when the sins of the last 60 years of moving left has come to haunt us.

the conservatives need to quit beating a dead horse....Obama will NOT be removed, ain’t gonna happen. We must move forward and support Palin, Jyndal, Pawlenty and more true conservatives. They are getting citizens positive response. If that doesn’t work, well...


23 posted on 12/13/2008 4:36:17 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Obozo.....friend of dictators and wannabee revoluuuushionaries !)
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To: GonzoII
If deemed means, “without merit, showing no proof beyond a Goebbels styled propaganda media arm passing forgeries and lies off as the truth”... then yes... he has been deemed.

LLS

24 posted on 12/13/2008 4:37:33 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! so sue me!)
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To: Fresh Wind

You may be more correct than you’ll ever know referring to him as Lord Obama. His dad was a loyal british subject by law. There’s no debating this.


25 posted on 12/13/2008 4:49:17 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: GonzoII
I was interested in RenewAmerica until this article.

We just want Obama to do what every other citizens in the United States has to do to get a job, show proof of his citizenship with US documents deemed acceptable by the US government.

26 posted on 12/13/2008 4:51:52 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: GonzoII
Deemed to be qaulified??

Along the continuum from proven to be qualified to purported to be qualified, the term deemed falls quite a bit closer to the latter than the former.

27 posted on 12/13/2008 4:58:12 AM PST by Bob
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To: GonzoII

This is not a “conspiracy theory”. Its not a tin foil hat issue. Its a compliance issue. Obama needs to show he is a Natural Born Citizen and if he cannot do so, he is Constitutionally barred from ever being President. Where is the damned “conspiracy” in that??

The Obama organization send out instructions to the media on how to deal with issues that might embarrass them. You can bet the one they sent out on this issue said-

Please describe those bringing attention to this matter as “conspiracy theorists”. This is the most effective means of discrediting our critics.

..and some Conservatives naively buy into this rubbish. I will say it again and again and again. As many times as is necessary. It is not any kind of “Conspiracy theory” and to use that term is only to become a pawn, a useful idiot, for the Obama camp and their mainstream media plants.


28 posted on 12/13/2008 5:00:25 AM PST by wistful
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To: jerod
"Obama, a man who is completely unqualified by just about every measure there is to be President, is fully qualified by birth - period."

Where's the proof??

"Hawaii's secretary of state has confirmed that Obama was born in that state."

Really?? I thought that the precise statement was that the State of Hawaii "had a birth record on file"---but nowhere produces the necessary proof of WHERE the birth actually took place. Has the Hawaii SoS signed an affidavit under oath that states that Obama was born in Hawaii???

As many others have said, this is an easily resolved question---either produce the actual birth record, or a legally sworn affidavit as to where the place of birth was.

29 posted on 12/13/2008 5:01:22 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: NavVet
If this is a case of tilting at windmills, then just authorize the release of the birth certificate and be done with it.

After his "Christmas Vacation" to the islands and observing his actions since the general election I, as many millions of real Americans, will never believe a damn word he speaks. By now I could care less if he shows up with "his" full birth certificate signed by Dr. J. Christ. He should have done that before he spent $800,000.00 hiding it. He is a punk socialist Chicago politician/crook raised around Marxists / America-haters and is just like the rest of the worthless trash he has associated with all his adult life and that is all he will ever be.

30 posted on 12/13/2008 5:03:11 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: NavVet

Not only that.

Rumors are that he refuses to release any and all of his college records because he was registered as a “foreign” student.

Jus watch. After he’s sitting in the Oval office, National Enquirer or somebody will offer a million dollars for this kind of data!

The cat is outa the bag, and I fear for my country if this is not resolved very, very soon.


31 posted on 12/13/2008 5:06:59 AM PST by djf (...heard about a couple livin in the USA, he said they traded in their baby for a Chevrolet...)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

The truth is it is toooooooo late to support any of the people you mention.

The truth is the place we are at is a place you are refusing to see or believe.

The truth is we will soon have an armed standing army to inforce the new world order.

The truth is our last free election was 2004.

The truth is we are maybe two, three events away from violent revolution.

The truth is......


32 posted on 12/13/2008 5:09:33 AM PST by stockpirate (Rush, Sean, Laura, Mark, Ann, Malkin, Beck, - MIA re: COLB, Have lost ALL creds!)
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To: Bon mots

“We are heading for a perfect storm.”

You’re quite right of course, I’ve been thinking the same thing.

At the same time though I believe that if Obama refuses to show his BC and the Gov’t refuses to make him then WE THE PEOPLE should put aside all of our private affairs and go to Washington and see that the Constitution is followed. Period.


33 posted on 12/13/2008 5:11:44 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: Wonder Warthog
Plus the fact that it was the Director of Health that made the statement, not the Sec of State. He can't even get that basic piece of info right.

What she said was:

she has "personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Now about that statement.It is against the law in Hawaii to reveal what is in a persons BC. It would have be ok for her to say they have his original Hawaiian birth certificate on record, because that would not be revealing anything in the record ( an original Hawaiian birth certificate is the record itself.) It is telling that she didn't say that. If she had mentioned anything else, it would have been violating the law by revealing the contents of his record ( a foreign BC is submitted as part of the record when applying for a Certificate of Birth ). Saying that his original birth certificate was a Kenyan BC, that would be breaking the law by revealing part of his record.

34 posted on 12/13/2008 5:12:34 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: GonzoII
What is substantiative, proveable. ..and not elusive as is a rainbow IS an authentic Birth Certificate!

Just show it. . .and end of 'conspiracy theories' fueled by the resistance and refusals to do just that on behalf of Obama. . .his Legal team, et al.

Why has he even bothered to muck up our Justice system with this 'non-issue'; when it can otherwise be rendered null and void; by the wave of this piece of paper. . .

Why, Why. . .WHY. . .

35 posted on 12/13/2008 5:14:27 AM PST by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~/)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
“If that doesn’t work, well...”

Why do you believe that moving forward within the rules and the system against people who make up their own rules and have contempt for the Constitution will be fruitful? “IF” that doesn't worK?

It won't.

36 posted on 12/13/2008 5:15:01 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: GonzoII

Fund in the article, “There can be fear. There can be loathing. There can be concern about an administration. But if you let things go past the guard rails and start seeing things that aren’t really there, you start worrying about things that aren’t really there, you end up discrediting yourself and you make it harder for the rest of us who have legitimate concerns and legitimate lines of attack.”

Past the guard rails means not blessed by the right crowd, that’s all. You just got your heads handed to you by people who realized the value of keeping a constant stream of questions in the minds of the public. Is that a lesson of any kind to those who “have legitimate concerns”? Nope, the “right people” want the rabble to just shut up until they decide what concerns are legitimate and how we should debate them without offending the croquet and yachting crowd. This little thing about the Constitution being obeyed is just silly because the legitimate damnocrats won’t talk nice to the legitimate republicans about it, right?

What’s a legitimate line of attack to you folks, that Hussein Obama wore white after Labor Day once?


37 posted on 12/13/2008 5:15:39 AM PST by Rashputin
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To: stockpirate

You may very well be right.

I don’t see how we can win with a violent revolution, the odds are stacked against the conservatives. ..in numbers.
I guess I just have a hard time seeing how all those millions who voted for obozo would ever turn on him?

Its almost like the jim Jones group with the Kool aid...the Obamanoids will follow him to the end.


38 posted on 12/13/2008 5:18:03 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Obozo.....friend of dictators and wannabee revoluuuushionaries !)
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To: GonzoII

WTF do you know Wes Vernon?

Answer these questions:

1.) Why are there NO hospitals or clinics in Hawaii that are willing to confirm that Comrade 0bama was born in their illustrious facilities in 1961?

2.) Why has 0bama spent six-figure sums and hired three law firms to conceal and suppress the details of his birth?

3.) Why has 0bama also sought to conceal the details of his school and medical records?

4.) What have 0bama family members stated that he was actually born in Kenya?

5.) Why did incoming Commerce Secretary Bill Richardson state that ‘0bama is an immigrant’ during the primary season?

6.) Why are you such a phucking coward willing to roll over for the 0bamunists?

Get back to us, ya dickhead.


39 posted on 12/13/2008 5:18:12 AM PST by mkjessup (God, guns & guts have kept America free, we still need all three. The 'Arsenal of Democracy' is 'US')
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To: TalBlack

I see your point.

Looks like we have abandoned so many times ‘the rules’ , the election fraud, etc. this is getting depressing.


40 posted on 12/13/2008 5:19:43 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Obozo.....friend of dictators and wannabee revoluuuushionaries !)
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