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Claims of Obama Proofers Go "Poof"
Pajamas Media ^ | December 12 | Bob Owens

Posted on 12/12/2008 4:50:42 PM PST by AJKauf

Barack Obama never renounced his U.S. citizenship. Also, as he was a minor when he moved to Indonesia, neither he nor his parents could have renounced it. Period. As far as U.S. law is concerned, Barack Obama never lost his U.S. citizenship even as he gained Indonesian citizenship. Indonesia’s laws on the matter simply don’t apply in this country.

And so while multiple lawsuits challenging his eligibility still have appeals left to be exhausted, the simple fact of the matter is that there is no credible evidence that Barack Obama is anything other than a U.S. citizen “natural born” in a Hawaiian hospital in 1961. As a result, none of the cases submitted to the U.S. Supreme Court is likely to be heard.

But will the quashing of the various legal challenges be enough to satisfy those that have bought into these unsupported theories?

If past conspiracy theories can be a guide, then “no.”

(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 1600penn; 911truthers; artbell; certifigate; conspiracyrules; crackerheads; csection; pissonthefifth; rubberroom
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To: muawiyah
The Certification of Live Birth has less info.

From that article:

A “Certification of Live Birth” may reflect data that had been changed over time, and does not provide corroborated testimony such as dates, locations, change in paternal identification, and witnesses. Any record that amendments had been submitted and information changed is not shown on the “Certification of Live Birth,” which is laser printed on special green stock paper, and lacks detailed information that would be expected from a true “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth,” or “Certificate of Delayed Birth.”

121 posted on 12/12/2008 8:59:24 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: org.whodat
The election is over, the question is Moot!!!

FReepers like facts, Barry.

Fact: the election isn't until Monday, when the Electoral College meets. We have a constitutional form of government, remember?

Fact: the Congress, as per the Twentieth Amendment, has to qualify the winner.

And so, in fact, you're just plain wrong. It's your post which is "moot."

122 posted on 12/12/2008 9:00:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Al Franken: One of the few people in America who could actually lower the average IQ of the Senate)
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To: ga medic

My BC states that it is an exact replica of the original which is on file. There is much more info on it than 0’s apparently faked one; my parent’s names, address, occupations & for how long; mother’s maiden name, doctor’s signature, name of hospital, parents’ races & states where they were from, their ages; eyedrops given (silver nitrate?) Now this is a lot of info! compared to ZERO’s certif. I was born in CA, ‘37. Maybe Hawaii did it differently.


123 posted on 12/12/2008 9:02:37 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yes, but if you request a birth certificate from the state you were born in —even if you were born in 1961, you will receive a birth certificate very similar to the certificate produced by BO. It is just as valid as the original.


124 posted on 12/12/2008 9:04:05 PM PST by ga medic
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To: ga medic
Not from Ohio you don't. Ohio has WAY more info.

See post 115 and 121.

125 posted on 12/12/2008 9:06:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: SolidWood

One news outlet has a story on Barry being born in Kenya...Globe.


126 posted on 12/12/2008 9:06:46 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: fr_freak

I can’t believe how many people, including those allegedly on the Right,
***I keep seeing this sentiment over & over again here on FR. We’ve been coopted by RINOs.


127 posted on 12/12/2008 9:06:54 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: luvadavi

All certified copies of birth certificates are similar to BOs. If you requested your birth certificate from California, you would receive something very similar to the COLB that BO posted. They can be used for everything the other, long form birth certificates are used for.


128 posted on 12/12/2008 9:07:47 PM PST by ga medic
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To: ga medic; luvadavi
You posted the same hogwash to me and you are incorrect. My 33 yr old son needed a copy of his Ohio BC and he got a certified copy of the original that included doctor, hospital, mother's maiden name etc.

Please read this article.

Obama's "birth certificate" - the Devil's in the details

129 posted on 12/12/2008 9:17:10 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ga medic

Even if what you say was true (and its been pointed out there is a lot more to it than that), it doesn’t explain why DailyKos issued the COLB. What does DailyKos have to do with it? It also doesn’t explain why, if Obama was trying to show legal proof of his birth the serial numbers were blacked out. That legally invalidates the COLB, so what was the purpose of doing so?


130 posted on 12/12/2008 9:25:11 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: GAB-1955
Why do ordinary citizens have to produce BCs to get a job, a driver's license, enter the service? There is no law that anyone running for Pres. has to produce it, mainly because for TWO centuries there was no doubt--except that Pres. Arthur in the 1880s was a fraud--until now, when Hussein has seen fit to conceal all pertinent info about himself & his past is a secret? McCain produced his BC when asked.

A man named Calero, a citizen of Nicaragua & member of the Communist Party, has run for President also--here in the US. Isn't it strange to say the least that none of the officials in those states questioned this?

131 posted on 12/12/2008 9:26:27 PM PST by luvadavi
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