Posted on 12/12/2008 4:50:42 PM PST by AJKauf
Barack Obama never renounced his U.S. citizenship. Also, as he was a minor when he moved to Indonesia, neither he nor his parents could have renounced it. Period. As far as U.S. law is concerned, Barack Obama never lost his U.S. citizenship even as he gained Indonesian citizenship. Indonesias laws on the matter simply dont apply in this country.
And so while multiple lawsuits challenging his eligibility still have appeals left to be exhausted, the simple fact of the matter is that there is no credible evidence that Barack Obama is anything other than a U.S. citizen natural born in a Hawaiian hospital in 1961. As a result, none of the cases submitted to the U.S. Supreme Court is likely to be heard.
But will the quashing of the various legal challenges be enough to satisfy those that have bought into these unsupported theories?
If past conspiracy theories can be a guide, then no.
(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...
I need to go to sleep!
Simply using a "slogan" doesn't cut it in this discussion. Too many of us have been educated in what the Hawaiian civil records system does and doesn't do to put up with it.
So, 'splain to us what That is that you wish to talk about.
It is the only kind of birth certificate issued now, and is sufficient to establish citizenship, receive a passport, or receive government services. That is the same type of birth certificate that all of my children received when they were born. The state of Hawaii does not issue any other kind, except for a certificate of Hawaiian birth, which is to determine Hawaiian heritage.
“And the name of the hospital is..............................”
And the name of the attending doctor is.................
So maybe Bob Owens of Pajama Media can answer this question. If the COLB that was released is just like the SEALED birth certificate, why pay attorneys to keep it sealed?
Asked if you didn’t wonder why he won’t show his BC~~ at least to the Court. You’re not interested?
nufsed
Good evening, Bruce!
What in the world are you talking about?
The Hawaiian government simply isn't as precise in its language as many would like it to be. Maybe in the future we can remedy that and make them speak the "common tongue" eh?!
But not in 1961.
Guess he doesn’t have one..inquiring mind, I mean. Doesn’t wonder why 0 won’t produce proof; he only gets curious about people’s sign-up dates! ;.)
They seem to have a history of using many different terms to mean the same thing.
Fur Shur, that reference you gave says it's "black" or it's "green".
In the space of three paragraphs they refer to two documents 6 different ways.
Obama's "birth certificate" - the Devil's in the details
For the purposes of this article, it should be noted that there are several different types of "birth certificates" that Hawaii uses to show proof of birth:
- Certification of Live Birth
- Certificate of Live Birth
- Certificate of Delayed Birth
- Certificate of Hawaiian Birth
Why does he have to tender proof, to turn the argument around? No other candidates have to produce birth certificates, do they?
Why don't you think that a man aspiring to the highest office in our land should prove who he is?
They use the SAME data base to produce them.
John McCain did, and curiously about the same time McCain was getting hammered over where he was born, Obama, who has his original Birth certificate, got a new copy made (either forged or real).
You show us proof, we show you ours.
As far as a pin prick on the base, there is this little itty bitty document called the constitution. The 20th Amendment states, “if the president elect fails to qualify...” so that means that 66 million people could vote for an unqualifed person and the issue won’t be decided until after he is president elect. There’s your pin prick. So the ball is back in your court.
20th Amendment Sct3: “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:59:02 AM · by Kevmo · 79 replies · 1,451+ views
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