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Claims of Obama Proofers Go "Poof"
Pajamas Media ^ | December 12 | Bob Owens

Posted on 12/12/2008 4:50:42 PM PST by AJKauf

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To: muawiyah
That would be" It isn't recognised for applying as a native Hawaiian for homeland".

I need to go to sleep!

101 posted on 12/12/2008 8:38:59 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
What you need to do is tell us Where they keep it, What it looks like, an How it differs from all the other documents.

Simply using a "slogan" doesn't cut it in this discussion. Too many of us have been educated in what the Hawaiian civil records system does and doesn't do to put up with it.

So, 'splain to us what That is that you wish to talk about.

102 posted on 12/12/2008 8:39:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: fr_freak
But I don't remember having ever seen it, not that it matters.
103 posted on 12/12/2008 8:40:42 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

It is the only kind of birth certificate issued now, and is sufficient to establish citizenship, receive a passport, or receive government services. That is the same type of birth certificate that all of my children received when they were born. The state of Hawaii does not issue any other kind, except for a certificate of Hawaiian birth, which is to determine Hawaiian heritage.


104 posted on 12/12/2008 8:42:06 PM PST by ga medic
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To: nufsed

“And the name of the hospital is..............................”

And the name of the attending doctor is.................

So maybe Bob Owens of Pajama Media can answer this question. If the COLB that was released is just like the SEALED birth certificate, why pay attorneys to keep it sealed?


105 posted on 12/12/2008 8:42:24 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: org.whodat

Asked if you didn’t wonder why he won’t show his BC~~ at least to the Court. You’re not interested?


106 posted on 12/12/2008 8:43:58 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: seekthetruth

nufsed


107 posted on 12/12/2008 8:44:14 PM PST by nufsed
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To: rfp1234

Good evening, Bruce!


108 posted on 12/12/2008 8:45:26 PM PST by Silly (www.QuestionOthority.com)
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To: muawiyah

What in the world are you talking about?


109 posted on 12/12/2008 8:46:08 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
BTEW, learn to read further. This document also says "In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth" ~ Bwahahahaha. Later on, it refers to this document, as well as the short form, as a "Birth Certificate".

The Hawaiian government simply isn't as precise in its language as many would like it to be. Maybe in the future we can remedy that and make them speak the "common tongue" eh?!

110 posted on 12/12/2008 8:46:34 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ga medic
It is the only kind of birth certificate issued now,

But not in 1961.

111 posted on 12/12/2008 8:46:42 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: luvadavi
The election is over, the question is Moot!!!
112 posted on 12/12/2008 8:49:06 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: Sharrukin

Guess he doesn’t have one..inquiring mind, I mean. Doesn’t wonder why 0 won’t produce proof; he only gets curious about people’s sign-up dates! ;.)


113 posted on 12/12/2008 8:49:44 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: DJ MacWoW
In 1961 the State of Hawaii was in business and issued all sorts of things, as they do now.

They seem to have a history of using many different terms to mean the same thing.

Fur Shur, that reference you gave says it's "black" or it's "green".

In the space of three paragraphs they refer to two documents 6 different ways.

114 posted on 12/12/2008 8:50:11 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Certification of Live Birth is different that Certificate of Live Birth.

Obama's "birth certificate" - the Devil's in the details

For the purposes of this article, it should be noted that there are several different types of "birth certificates" that Hawaii uses to show proof of birth:

- Certification of Live Birth
- Certificate of Live Birth
- Certificate of Delayed Birth
- Certificate of Hawaiian Birth

115 posted on 12/12/2008 8:51:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Why does he have to tender proof, to turn the argument around? No other candidates have to produce birth certificates, do they?


116 posted on 12/12/2008 8:54:35 PM PST by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven! (USCG Aux))
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To: GAB-1955
McCain did when questioned.

Why don't you think that a man aspiring to the highest office in our land should prove who he is?

117 posted on 12/12/2008 8:56:53 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

They use the SAME data base to produce them.


118 posted on 12/12/2008 8:56:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: GAB-1955

John McCain did, and curiously about the same time McCain was getting hammered over where he was born, Obama, who has his original Birth certificate, got a new copy made (either forged or real).


119 posted on 12/12/2008 8:58:54 PM PST by usmcobra (Go ask Obama for your change, and don't bug me!)
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To: MilspecRob

You show us proof, we show you ours.

As far as a pin prick on the base, there is this little itty bitty document called the constitution. The 20th Amendment states, “if the president elect fails to qualify...” so that means that 66 million people could vote for an unqualifed person and the issue won’t be decided until after he is president elect. There’s your pin prick. So the ball is back in your court.

20th Amendment Sct3: “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:59:02 AM · by Kevmo · 79 replies · 1,451+ views
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2145602/posts


120 posted on 12/12/2008 8:59:08 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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