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The President-elect's Views on Raw Milk, and Regulation
The Complete Patient ^ | December 11, 2008 | David E. Gumpert

Posted on 12/11/2008 5:28:54 AM PST by davidgumpert

The movement to convince President-elect Barack Obama to name a reformer as secretary of agriculture (or a re-named “secretary of food”) just got some clout, with a New York Times columnist now pushing it.

It could be he will—-he seems very much the pragmatist. At the same time, though, many raw milk consumers and producers alike have been wondering how the President-elect feels about raw milk, one of the more contentious food/agriculture issues around. And in this arena, I’m afraid I have bad news.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecompletepatient.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho2008; bhousda; obama; obamatransitionfile; rawmilk; regulation
Evidence is mounting that the President-elect is a big-government guy. Here's consideration of what this means in the food arena.
1 posted on 12/11/2008 5:28:54 AM PST by davidgumpert
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knowing someone that buys raw milk, I know just what a big issue this has become. While I can see that much of the research shows that raw milk is safe and most likely offers more benefits than pasteurized milk, the main issue is handling. It would appear that smaller production that can be tightly controlled is the best solution to get raw milk. I would not trust larger operations to deliver raw milk for fear of contamination.


2 posted on 12/11/2008 5:39:55 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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While I can see that much of the research shows that raw milk is safe

No, legitimate research shows that raw milk is inherently dangerous.

and most likely offers more benefits than pasteurized milk

Sure, if you believe food borne pathogens are beneficial.

the main issue is handling

Enterotoxigenic Staphylococcus aureus
Campylobacter jejuni
Salmonella species
E. coli (EHEC) (ETEC)
Listeria monocytogenes
Mycobacterium tuberculosis
Mycobacterium bovis
Brucella species (abortus –cattle) (melitensis- goats)
Coxiella burnetii
Yersinia enterocolitica

Do all of the above pathogens, that can be found in raw milk, get there from poor handling?

It would appear that smaller production that can be tightly controlled is the best solution to get raw milk

Even if you have your own farm there is no way to fully sterilize udders. Even if you could, you'd still be unaware of any pathogens transferred from the cow/goat through the milk like brucellosis or salmonella.

That said, I don't think the government should be telling anyone they can't consume raw milk. However, believing raw milk can be made safe or that research shows it to be more beneficial than pasteurized milk just isn't so.

3 posted on 12/11/2008 7:50:01 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: davidgumpert

Let me guess...

“interstate commerce”.


4 posted on 12/11/2008 7:51:31 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Mase

All I can type is that you are ill informed on the subject.


5 posted on 12/11/2008 4:13:24 PM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Yeah, well, get back to me when you get some facts on the subject and can inform me. Otherwise, I’ll conclude you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about which is why you won’t (or can’t) defend what you’ve posted here. Feelings are easy. Facts are hard.


6 posted on 12/11/2008 4:56:22 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

Having followed the current hearings on the issue in the State of California, I won’t need to get back to you. You sir, as I wrote, are not informed on the subject as you think you are. But being you are what you are, I will concede you won this internet argument and I bow down to you as the ruler of the intertubes!

No go forth and spread your hate.


7 posted on 12/11/2008 5:42:07 PM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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Hate? LOL! You're a clown.

Did the hearings in Ca. prove that raw milk is pathogen free? Did those same hearings also prove that raw milk is more beneficial (ROFL!) than pasteurized milk? I'm waiting for you to school me but all you want to do is run away.

I guess you'll be going forth to spread your ignorance.

8 posted on 12/11/2008 6:14:04 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

you forgot to add that you are one of the pathogens in raw milk. :)


9 posted on 12/11/2008 6:16:25 PM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: Mase

If this guy had raw milk in his diet, he would not have had this happen to him.

http://withleather.uproxx.com/?p=12767


10 posted on 12/11/2008 6:17:39 PM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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