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'Christmas is the pathway to hell': Muslim lawyer's extraordinary rant at 'evil' celebration
DailyMail ^ | 12/10/08 | Liz Hazelton

Posted on 12/10/2008 3:52:30 PM PST by Sammy67

A Muslim lawyer has launched an extraordinary rant against Christmas, branding the celebration 'evil'. Hate preacher Anjem Choudary claimed the festival was the 'pathway to hell' and urged his followers to boycott it. 'In the world today many Muslims, especially those residing in Western countries, are exposed to the evil celebration Christmas,' he raged in a sermon broadcast on the internet.

'Many take part in the festival celebrations by having Christmas turkey dinners. 'Decorating the house, purchasing Christmas trees or having Christmas turkey meals are completely prohibited by Allah. 'Many still practise this corrupt celebration as a remembrance of the birth of Jesus. 'How can a Muslim possibly approve or participate in such a practice that

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To: Sammy67
They sound like atheist Libertarians.
101 posted on 12/11/2008 2:55:39 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain had no honor when he failed to defend Sarah Palin, Leno was not enough)
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To: TigersEye

...”Name your toilet Allah”

And start dropping some major Mohammeds in there!


102 posted on 12/11/2008 4:08:23 AM PST by wazoo1031
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To: Sammy67
What I find interesting about this is that, presumably, a significant number of British muslims do celebrate Christmas to some extent: otherwise Choudary wouldn't be so exercised about it. This suggests a degree of assimilation which I find quite encouraging. In rather the same way, a year or so ago, it wasn't until Choudary or one of his mates started fulminating about it that one became aware that there were numbers of British muslims who were converting to Christianity.
103 posted on 12/11/2008 4:45:01 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Nathan Zachary

Nonsense? Really? Let me point out, if I may, a couple things overlooked in your dissertation.

For example, although the Gospels describe Jesus’ birth in detail, they never mention the date, so historians do not know on what date he was born. The Roman Catholic Church chose December 25 as the day for the Feast of the Nativity in order to give Christian meaning to existing pagan rituals. For instance, the Church replaced festivities honoring the birth of Mithra, the god of light, with festivities to commemorate the birth of Jesus, whom the Bible calls the light of the world. The Catholic Church hoped to draw pagans into its religion by allowing them to continue their revelry while simultaneously honoring the birthday of Jesus. The Eastern Orthodox Church took a slightly different course. By the end of the 4th century the Eastern Church in Constantinople had also begun to acknowledge December 25 as Jesus’ birthday, but it emphasized the celebration of Christ’s baptism on January 6 as the more important holiday.

Also overlooked is that fact that historians are unsure exactly when Christians first began celebrating the Nativity of Christ. However, most scholars believe that Christmas originated in the 4th century as a Christian substitute for pagan celebrations of the winter solstice. Before the introduction of Christmas, each year beginning on December 17 Romans honored Saturn, the ancient god of agriculture, in a festival called Saturnalia. This festival lasted for seven days and included the winter solstice, which usually occurred around December 25 on the ancient Julian calendar. During Saturnalia the Romans feasted, postponed all business and warfare, exchanged gifts, and temporarily freed their slaves. Many Romans also celebrated the lengthening of daylight following the winter solstice by participating in rituals to glorify Mithra, the ancient Persian god of light. These and other winter festivities continued through January 1, the festival of Kalends, when Romans marked the day of the new moon and the first day of the month and year.

Cordially, A


104 posted on 12/11/2008 8:13:57 AM PST by Ahithophel (Padron@Anniversario)
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To: MartinStyles

since he’s living on the dole, and obviously cant afford it himself, I think we should all take up a collection to send him a nice Christmas ham, complete with trimmings. Its the least we could do.


105 posted on 12/11/2008 8:20:57 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Longtom

Im not toast. My Guy wins in the end. And O’s election may have brought that day significantly closer.

Maranatha!


106 posted on 12/11/2008 8:24:57 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Old Sarge

Try the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod. You will recognize the liturgy. Only difference is no pope, saints, adoration of Mary etc. Very conservative and biblically based. You might feel at home. (and no we are not the ELCA either, we and a few other synods are what is left of the conservative branch of Lutherans.)
Or work to reform the errors of the Catholic church from the inside. (No I am not catholic bashing, every church has its problems)


107 posted on 12/11/2008 8:30:50 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Dallas59
Animals.

Crazy animals.
108 posted on 12/11/2008 8:37:33 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: wazoo1031

Religiously! ;^)


109 posted on 12/11/2008 11:11:22 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Ahithophel; Nathan Zachary

And other scholars draw no connection with Saturnalia.

It is a dangerous practice to assign motives to others particularly when there are sufficient other reasons for the date and the celebration.

It is particularly offensive to see the pagan arguments on a thread about Muslim objections to our Christian tradition.


110 posted on 12/11/2008 11:41:48 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
It is particularly offensive to see the pagan arguments on a thread about Muslim objections to our Christian tradition.

Whatchu' talkin' 'bout Willis? You may have overlooked my initial comment noting the irony that a pagan holiday transformed into a Christian holiday we know today as Christmas is now being challenged as an evil, pagan celebration by deceived, Hell-bound Muslims (2 Timothy 3:12-14). Merry Christmas and let me recommend 2 shots and some salve to reduce that swelling from your over-sensi-nativity.

111 posted on 12/11/2008 12:23:17 PM PST by Ahithophel (Padron@Anniversario)
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To: Ahithophel

I just read the one post of yours.

If I misunderstood your position and jumped the gun, I apologize.


112 posted on 12/11/2008 12:35:44 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Ahithophel

But I will retain my sensi-nativity about and rejection that “Christmas was introduced as a substitute for pagan celebrations”.


113 posted on 12/11/2008 12:43:08 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

As familiar as the leftists heatedly proclaiming “There is no war on Christmas!”, over and over, every time one of these Christmas-hating nuts gets mentioned.


114 posted on 12/11/2008 12:49:09 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: D-fendr

I guess that just shows some ailments are chronic. Adieu.


115 posted on 12/11/2008 12:59:52 PM PST by Ahithophel (Padron@Anniversario)
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To: Ahithophel

Cute.


116 posted on 12/11/2008 1:08:08 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: ozzymandus

It is constant. And comes from many sides. Christianity fought paganism, heresy and materialism and the fight never ends.

thanks for your reply..


117 posted on 12/11/2008 1:11:04 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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