Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

World Net Daily ^ | 12-9-08 | Chelsea Schilling

[dynachrome]

Any of you believe obamalamadingdong's promises about the 2nd Amendment?

[ArrogantBustard]

patented process developed by Seattle, Wash., resident Russ Ford and his business partners, Steve Mace and John Knickerbocker.

Get Rich Quick scheme?

Ford, Mace, and Knickerbocker are domestic enemies.

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

Time to cast your own lead and load your own powder.

Not sure how they'd argue that casting your own lead fell under the "Commerce Clause".

Maybe they'd just get the EPA to outlaw lead altogether.

[TheCipher]

He’ll just say “The 2nd Ammendment is about the right to bear arms. It says nothing about ammunition !!” /sarc

[Las Vegas Ron]

Private citizens and retail outlets would be required to dispose of all non-coded ammunition no later than Jan. 1, 2011.

Yeah, good luck with that.

How would that be enforced? Never mind, I don't want to even think about it.

[Squantos]

RICO act apply here ?

[dynachrome]

“Time to cast your own lead and load your own powder”

But it would be illegal without the laser coding. You can afford that, right?

[Pistolshot]

Here's the website. Not much there, no real contact except for email addy. No organization chart, nothing.

Ammunition Accountability

[PugetSoundSoldier]

Ford, Mace, and Knickerbocker are domestic enemies.

Why? I can think of a few cases where this could be very useful, such as in police shoot-outs. Knowing which officer fired which bullet could be extremely useful in sorting out such events.

I suppose you consider Berners-Lee an enemy too since he invented the web browser that allows porn to spread across the Internet, too?

[tatsinfla]

i say that it is high time to take our country back....the loonies are out of control.....

[theDentist]

In tracing the ammunition, we found that the .22 caliber round was fired from a distance of 30 feet, striking the local leader of Ammunition Accountability in the left buttock, penetrating the jeans and underwear he was wearing, bisecting the cheeks, and exiting the right buttock at a downward angle, and coming to rest in the dirt. :-)

[from occupied ga]

Time to cast your own lead

or machine your own tungsten.

[Chickensoup]

be interesting to find out who the are and who is backing them.

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

But it would be illegal without the laser coding. You can afford that, right?

Except that they can't "regulate" it without appealing to the "Commerce Clause", and as long as you haven't sold the molded slug to anyone, then no commerce has transpired, so there's nothing that they could conceivably "regulate".

[Ouderkirk]

Any of you believe obamalamadingdong's promises about the 2nd Amendment?

NOPE !!!

[MrB]

Not sure how they'd argue that casting your own lead fell under the "Commerce Clause".

Easy. FDR did it with wheat.
Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942)

A man growing wheat for his own consumption affects interstate commerce because if he didn't grow it for his own consumption he'd have to buy it from an interstate source. Therefore, the federal government has the power to regulate someone growing wheat for their own consumption.

I sh!t you not.

[ArrogantBustard]

I can think of a few cases where this could be very useful

I think you're giving them too much credit ...

This is not a technology intended for assisting police in managing their own personnel problems. It is intended for infringing the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms.

I hope that, after some reflection, you're ashamed of your analogy to Tim Berners-Lee. That has to be the stupidest thing I've seen today.

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

Yeah, but at that point you just tell the Federal Gubmint to go fornicate with itself, and you dress up as Injuns and throw some tea in Boston Harbor.

[MrB]

I don’t recall a “Topeka Wheat Party” happening in 1942...

[ArrogantBustard]

and as long as you haven't sold the molded slug to anyone, then no commerce has transpired, so there's nothing that they could conceivably "regulate".

Hah!

Since your hand-cast bullets are explicitly an alternative to manufactured and laser coded bullets, they "affect" interstate commerce ... and are therefore subject to regulation.