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Stop the music torture, rock bands tell U.S. military (Includes song / artist list)
Wales Online / Various ^ | December 10, 2008

Posted on 12/10/2008 5:58:14 AM PST by Stoat

Stop the music torture, rock bands tell U.S. military

Dec 10 2008 WalesOnline

Rock musicians have joined British activists to demand US military interrogators stop using their songs as weapons to disorient terror suspects and other prisoners.

A campaign organised by UK law group Reprieve has brought together groups including Massive Attack and musicians such as Tom Morello, who played with Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave and is now on a solo tour.

It will feature minutes of silence during concerts and festivals, said Chloe Davies of Reprieve, which represents dozens of Guantanamo Bay detainees.

The tactic of auditory assaults has been common in the US war on terror, with forces systematically using loud music on hundreds of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay.

Lt Gen Ricardo Sanchez, the then US military commander in Iraq, authorised it on September 14 2003, “to create fear, disorient ... and prolong capture shock”.

FBI agents stationed at Guantanamo Bay reported numerous instances in which music was blasted at detainees, saying they were “told such tactics were common there”.

According to an FBI memo, one interrogator at Guantanamo bragged he needed only four days to “break” someone by alternating 16 hours of music and lights with four hours of silence and darkness.

Ruhal Ahmed, a Briton captured in Afghanistan and later released without charge in 2004, described excruciating sessions at Guantanamo Bay in which his hands were shackled to his feet, which were shackled to the floor, forcing him into a painful squat for periods of up to two days.

Mr Ahmed told Reprieve the agony was compounded when music was introduced because “before you could actually concentrate on something else, try to make yourself focus on some other things in your life that you did before and take that pain away...it makes you feel like you are going mad”.

For many detainees who grew up in Afghanistan – where music was banned under Taliban rule – interrogations by US forces marked their first exposure to the pounding rhythms, played at top volume.

Binyam Mohammed, now a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay, said men held with him at the CIA’s “Dark Prison” in Afghanistan wound up screaming and smashing their heads against walls, unable to endure more.

“There was loud music, (Eminem’s) Slim Shady and Dr Dre for 20 days. I heard this non-stop over and over,” he told his lawyer, Clive Stafford Smith.

“The CIA worked on people, including me, day and night for the months before I left. Plenty lost their minds.”

Rear Admiral David Thomas, the commander of Guantanamo’s detention centre, said the music treatment was not currently used at Guantanamo but added that he could not rule out its use in the future.

“I couldn’t speculate and I wouldn’t speculate but I can tell you it doesn’t happen here at Guantanamo and it hasn’t happened since I’ve been here,” Rear Admiral Thomas, who has been at Guantanamo for six months, said.

But not all of the music is hard rock. Christopher Cerf, who wrote music for Sesame Street, said he was horrified to learn songs from the children’s TV show were used in interrogations.

“I wouldn’t want my music to be a party to that,” he said.

Some musicians, however, are proud that their music is used in interrogations.

Bassist Stevie Benton, whose group Drowning Pool has performed in Iraq and recorded one of the interrogators’ favourites, Bodies, said: “People assume we should be offended that somebody in the military thinks our song is annoying enough that played over and over it can psychologically break someone down.

“I take it as an honour to think that perhaps our song could be used to quell another 9/11 attack or something like that.”

US military interrogators have often blasted music at detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay. According to Reprieve, these are some of the songs they have used most frequently:

:: Enter Sandman – Metallica;

:: Bodies – Drowning Pool;

:: Shoot to Thrill – AC/DC;

:: Hell’s Bells – AC/DC;

:: I Love You, from the Barney And Friends children’s TV show;

:: Born In The USA – Bruce Springsteen;

:: Babylon – David Gray;

:: White America – Eminem;

:: Sesame Street – theme song from the children’s TV show.

Other bands and artists whose music has been frequently played at US detention sites are Aerosmith, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Don McLean, Lil’ Kim, Limp Bizkit, Meat Loaf, Rage Against the Machine, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Tupac Shakur.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gitmo; guantanamo; music; terror; terrorism; torture; waronterror
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To: Stoat

So these “musicians” are trying to tell cutomers who own legitimate copies of their songs exactly how many times and how loud they can play CDs they own.

Maybe they should try that message with their teen and 20something fans and see how well it “plays”.


21 posted on 12/10/2008 6:10:19 AM PST by rod1
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To: dirtbiker
To these animals, Rosie would look like Jessica Simpson....

You're right.

I read about an Islamist who traded his wife for a camel.....and no one even noticed.

22 posted on 12/10/2008 6:11:38 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Stoat; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
No mercy.


23 posted on 12/10/2008 6:14:36 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("If one cannot learn from the mistakes of others, one might as well become a Democrat."--E. Friesner)
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To: Thermalseeker
Play anything by Barbara Streisand

People..........people who behead people.....

24 posted on 12/10/2008 6:15:08 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Sho me da BC...mo)
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To: All
The List on YouTube

YouTube - Metallica- Enter Sandman

YouTube - Drowning Pool - Bodies (Let The Bodies Hit The Floor)

YouTube - Ac-Dc - Shoot to Thrill live!!

YouTube - AC-DC - Hell's Bells

YouTube - Barney - I Love You

YouTube - Bruce Springsteen-Born In The U.S.A.

YouTube - Babylon Music Video - David Gray

YouTube - eminem white america & cleanin' out my closet live mtv vma

YouTube - Sesame Street - TV Theme Song

25 posted on 12/10/2008 6:15:31 AM PST by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: capt. norm

I keep looking at that picture and it looks familiar. Then it hit me.

She looks like the alien in Predator. Just not as thin.


26 posted on 12/10/2008 6:19:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: J40000
What in the HELL was that???

Amazingly-the three commenter's seemed to like it!

Must be the “band” members themselves.

27 posted on 12/10/2008 6:20:00 AM PST by Into the Vortex
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To: Stoat
No Yoko?


28 posted on 12/10/2008 6:20:17 AM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: Stoat
I Love You, from the Barney And Friends children’s TV show

OK, now THAT is torture.
29 posted on 12/10/2008 6:22:37 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (I'll give Obama the same amount of respect the left gave Bush)
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To: Stoat
Two words:

YOKO ONO

30 posted on 12/10/2008 6:23:20 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Stoat
I think these talentless "musicians" need a little educatin' on what torture *really* looks (and sounds) like.

http://www.charonboat.com/2007/09/beheading_unknown_nepali_hostage.wmv

WARNING: THIS VIDEO IS BREATHTAKINGLY BRUTAL AND DISTURBING (you've been warned)

31 posted on 12/10/2008 6:24:17 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: Stoat
Well, what the hell else should torturous noise be used for, eh?.

Which raises the question for someone to start a thread about .. (I ain't touchin' it with anyones ten-foot pole .. ) ....

If it works to break murderers .. what's it doing to our lovely children?

Have at it.

32 posted on 12/10/2008 6:25:39 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Commander X

I’m surprised Babylon/David Gray made the list.

I do think She Bang by either Ricky Martin or William Hung should have been on the list.

Actually, a lot of the American Idol tryouts clips should have been on the list.


33 posted on 12/10/2008 6:27:29 AM PST by staytrue (YES WE CAN, (everyone should get in the practice of saying it, it will soon be manditory))
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To: Stoat

My weird question is - does the US Gov’t pay ASCAP royalties? If so, shouldn’t these bands shut up and take the check?


34 posted on 12/10/2008 6:28:18 AM PST by cetarist
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To: Stoat
Don't worry boys, I have found a far more potent weapon.

Here.

35 posted on 12/10/2008 6:29:36 AM PST by Xenophon450 ( The stain of freedom, he's washed it out... whoÂ’s rocking the cradle? I have no doubt...)
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To: Stoat

William Shanter’s version of Strawberry Fields Forever.........that would make anyone “break”


36 posted on 12/10/2008 6:30:19 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Stoat
Bassist Stevie Benton, whose group Drowning Pool has performed in Iraq and recorded one of the interrogators’ favourites, Bodies, said: “People assume we should be offended that somebody in the military thinks our song is annoying enough that played over and over it can psychologically break someone down.

“I take it as an honour to think that perhaps our song could be used to quell another 9/11 attack or something like that.”

BEST SONG EVER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_QntXc-c4

I'm glad I paid for their CD now.

37 posted on 12/10/2008 6:30:56 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (Deplore the profligate scattering of corpses!)
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To: capt. norm
Put away the torture music and get out those Rosie O'Donnell pictures....

Better yet, get Larry Flynt to do an exclusive Rosie and Roseanne photo spread and all nude dance video singing all their Barbara Striesand and Bruce Springsteen favorites!

38 posted on 12/10/2008 6:31:00 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Stoat

I don’t remember the name of the song, or who did it, but when I went through survival school, they played a song that had the phrase “Napalm sticks to kids” in it. I don’t remember all of them, but they weren’t bad enough to keep me from sleeping when I could.


39 posted on 12/10/2008 6:32:24 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Hey Obama, why lawyer up when you can pony up? Show us your vault copy BC)
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To: Red Badger

Um, I think the idea is to pick tracks that the interrogators like to listen to, but that folks who grew up in Muslim cultures find obnoxious. Music from Barney and Friends would have our guys cracking.


40 posted on 12/10/2008 6:33:10 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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