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CA: Expert calls Tracy torture case a "social services plane wreck" (Foster child abuse)
InsideBayArea.com ^ | 12/8/08 | Jeanine Benca

Posted on 12/08/2008 8:25:57 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 12/08/2008 8:25:57 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

I can hardly wrap my mind around the awful things that this boy endured.

I do wonder though if his mother and the women who she gave custody to and who later so horribly abused Kyle were lesbian lovers. And if this women was in a sexual relationship with the other couple in that house. Because in the back of my mind is a little niggling remembrance that says there have been several high profile cases of lesbian lovers torturing children in their care.


2 posted on 12/08/2008 8:35:46 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Numerous cases for the death penalty.

All the abusers mentioned here do not deserve to breath the same air as human beings.


3 posted on 12/08/2008 8:39:10 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Political correctness is a form of censorship!)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Studies show as many as 15 percent of children in wealthy nations are physically abused by guardians each year”

I stopped reading right there. When an article starts out with madeup BS numbers the rest of it is BS too.


4 posted on 12/08/2008 8:40:58 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: lastchance
there have been 2 major child abuse cases in the UK in the past few weeks.

The cruelty of some people cannot be underestimated and I cannot see how any agency no matter how well funded can prevent all the cases.

The correlation of abuse with ‘live in’ fathers or other non-married type of arrangement is very high.

5 posted on 12/08/2008 8:43:57 AM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: NormsRevenge

I remember when we had lots of trains it was called a train wreck.


6 posted on 12/08/2008 8:44:31 AM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: lastchance

lots of high profiles cases of hetero sexual couples abusing their foster and adopted kids, too.


7 posted on 12/08/2008 8:50:47 AM PST by merry10
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To: NormsRevenge
According to a study published Tuesday in the British medical journal The Lancet

Ah the Lancet.

I begin to see why numbers like 15% are being thrown around - the Lancet has long since become a comic, with its ludicrous medical statistics being the running joke.

8 posted on 12/08/2008 8:58:11 AM PST by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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To: caver

Yes, I would ask what constitutes abuse?


9 posted on 12/08/2008 9:07:30 AM PST by Cheesel (The Ark was built by amateurs, the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: lastchance

I’ve heard of plenty of hetero people abusing kids.


10 posted on 12/08/2008 9:08:51 AM PST by Cheesel (The Ark was built by amateurs, the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: NormsRevenge

From 2000-2002 In California, there were 68.6 per 1,000 emergency responses per 1,000 population under the age 18 for child endangerment/abuse.


11 posted on 12/08/2008 9:30:32 AM PST by marsh2
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To: NormsRevenge
Satanic.
Anyone who does not believe that Satan and his minions prowl the earth looking for who they can devour are severely deluded - and people are NOT basically "good at heart", but most are ego-centric as well as capable of extreme cruelty.
This is why we need a Saviour.
12 posted on 12/08/2008 9:30:44 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: lewislynn

When did “plane wreck” come into standard usage?


13 posted on 12/08/2008 9:32:58 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Cheesel

I never said that was not the case. But I do have to wonder if we can expect to see more of these cases.


14 posted on 12/08/2008 9:44:16 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: vimto
The correlation of abuse with ‘live in’ fathers or other non-married type of arrangement is very high.

Based on the really horrific cases I have read about over the years, I couldn't agree with you more.

Unfortunately, there have been no validated studies done in this area because the conclusion (that children are nurtured best in loving heterosexual families (natural or foster) with married parents) is too un-PC for the social services "experts" to accept. I know this is too harsh, but it seems like the severely abused and murdered children are considered just grist for the social services' "we need more personnel and money" mill.

15 posted on 12/08/2008 9:45:15 AM PST by Captain Rhino (The best way to calm the delusions of grandeur in the energy cartel is to stop needing their energy)
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To: merry10

I think it might have more to do with the instability and lack of connection a non married partner has to his or her partner’s children than to sexual orientation. But I would be wrong if I did not admit I think in the cases where a lesbian couple have been abusing a male child that some of it stems from the very fact the child is male.

But since it is socially incorrect to even suggest abuse pathology is more likely to rise out of non married relationships. I imagine suggesting that additional factors may come into play in the cases of lesbian couples accused of abuse would be met with cries of homophobe and reminders that lesbians are gentle dolphin like creatures unlike those bruting hulks of mean ole nasty global warming culprits smelly men!!


16 posted on 12/08/2008 9:55:54 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: NormsRevenge
One reason is a lack of faith in the public welfare system by doctors and others who might suspect abuse but do not report it because they fear foster care would be worse for the child,

Gee, why would anyone lack faith in a system so utterly broken and completely morally bankrupt?

17 posted on 12/08/2008 9:56:05 AM PST by Malacoda (CO(NH2)2 on OBAMA.)
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To: caver
Indeed. . .and when they cite The Lancet, they have gone completely into fantasy.
18 posted on 12/08/2008 9:58:20 AM PST by Hulka
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The circumstances of intense abuse vary and cannot be boiled down to a single cause, she said, though researchers say there are common risk factors among abusers. They include mental illness, a history of abuse and dysfunction in their own childhood, stress, lack of education, substance abuse, poverty and an absence of social support.

Often these are people who sexually get off on torturing the innocent.

I'm sorry if they had problems when they were young ( and I kind of doubt this - it has the feel of "liberal lie") - but when someone tortures a child, they should be put to death by the state. There's no reason to have a death penalty if these types of monsters can't be put down.

The main cause of this type of abuse is evil - old fashioned evil.

19 posted on 12/08/2008 10:04:05 AM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: NormsRevenge

this is incredibly sad. Unfortunately, it is all too common. The social services department in my state is really overburdened with cases. I feel terribly sorry for the kids and sorry for the social workers as well. The ones I have dealt with as a foster parent were terrific, but overworked. They are also underpaid, I think, for the work they do. As for the foster parents—ones that do their jobs right don’t make anything.

We don’t value kids in this society. We pay criminals who are pro athletes millions of dollars a year for what? To catch a ball. Yet, when it comes to kids who needs help, we pay what? A small fraction of that to social workers and they are the ones who’ll make a difference.

There are tons of good foster parents out there—straight and gay, but they don’t make the news.

I would like to tell people that there are about 500,000 of foster kids in the US. There are about 100,000 kids in foster care waiting for permanent, loving homes. If you care about kids, please consider helping out at:

www.adoptuskids.com

http://www.mtwyouth.org — This organization provides job training to kids who are aging out of state care in Massachusetts—they give a hand up, not a hand out.

http://www.mareinc.org/


20 posted on 12/08/2008 10:32:25 AM PST by Cheesel (The Ark was built by amateurs, the Titanic by professionals.)
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