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Supreme Court rejects Obama case
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/120808zor.pdf ^

Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment

too bad


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 911truth; bho; birthcertificate; blackhelicopters; certifigate; cfr; choomgang; colb; conspiracy; conspiracytheories; conspiracytheorists; conspiracytheory; deathofthewest; donofrio; lawsuit; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; pok; ronpaul; ruling; scotus; tinfoil; tinfoilhats; ussc
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To: TCH
Hmm. Sorry, don't buy it. In 1857, the USSC ruled all slaves were property, not people. Was the Constitution "officially dead?" Nope. In 1896, the USSC ruled that blacks and whites could be legally segregated in public facilities. Was the Constitution dead? Nope.

Funny thing about our constitution: It seems far stronger than either the radical right or the radical left give it credit for being.

441 posted on 12/08/2008 10:02:45 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Vendome

Yeah, instant, all right... stir it and you get instant Obama...


442 posted on 12/08/2008 10:02:48 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Godsgirl

Know how you feel, but I have to trust the Justices did not take Leo’s case for the reasons Leo stated on his web site. The case Leo has against the lower court Judge would most likly have to be settled first and the SC could not take his case because of that. Leo said sometihing to that effect, but then I may not have gotten it completely. Trying to read all the comments on his site as Leo answers them too. Keep praying for Cort’s case to do well as he has no lower court problems that Leo’s did with that Judge making changes in his application. Remember this that a friend sent to me. I love what it says!

VERTAS NUMQUAM PERIT, VERITAS ODIT MORAS, VERITAS VINCIT.
TRUTH NEVER PERISHES, TRUTH HATES DELAY, TRUTH CONQUERS.


443 posted on 12/08/2008 10:03:03 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: bronxboy
I don’t have an original copy of my birth certificate. It was lost many years ago. However, I can get a copy-certified copy anytime I want. It is just as good as the original. This is total nonsense. You don’t want Obama to be President (who does) and you are essentially refusing to face reality.

Please tell us where Obama was born. There are three stories at least just within Barack's family. Please tell us the name of the Doctor who delivered him, or of any nurse who attended.

All I want is the truth. If that truth proves that Obama was born in Hawaii, he is qualified, in my opinion, and I can accept that and move on. However, if valid proof is not produced, I will not believe it. There is no legitimate reason for Obama to have withheld this simple document all of these months.

444 posted on 12/08/2008 10:03:33 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Hey Horowitz! Just because we don't swing left doesn't mean we're "unhinged".)
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To: jch10

Gerald R. Ford, Jr., must be pleased. He said Stevens was the most important accomplishment of his short-lived admnistration.


445 posted on 12/08/2008 10:03:40 AM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks Tom and may God continue to bless you as well!

~belle~


446 posted on 12/08/2008 10:04:18 AM PST by atlbelle44
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To: Osage Orange
I'm saying you make your case. But once that case is made, it is ridiculous and dangerous to continue to treat people as "stupid." They KNOW what information they want.

If you don't believe that, then you really don't believe in a free society. It's the old, "If you don't like my band's music, then you must have no taste." And, yes, we gave them the information, over, and over, and over until for the most part they said SHUT UP.

447 posted on 12/08/2008 10:04:46 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: bronxboy

Good, that’s all we want from Obama. A “Certified copy” of his. Not a “Certification of Live Birth” that isn’t even a scanned in document and has been debunked as a computer generated image.

Not even the photographs that factcheck.org has put out that even looks hokey to the untrained eye.

But a Certified “Certificate of Live Birth”. There IS a hard copy, it is protected by the Governor. If there wasn’t one, there would be nothing to protect.

So you think if you lose the copy your parents had when you were born there is nothing left?

I got a certified photostat copy of my father’s birth from 1944. It was a photocopy of the ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE that had the raised seal and signature added to it after printing the copy. That is the ONLY thing the Social Security Dept would accept. If our own Federal Government won’t accept what Obama put out there (that doesn’t even seem legite in the first place), why should the American People accept it for the guy who commands our military???


448 posted on 12/08/2008 10:05:28 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: bronxboy

This case was all about getting rid of Obama and really has nothing to do with the constitution.
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TOTALLY wrong. Amazed you wrote that statement. The MULTITUDE of suits brought in this matter are SOLELY about making Obama PROVE he is eligible to be president. And it has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE WRITTEN LAW of the Constitution. Verbatim. Article II, Section (1).

I will never accept Obama as the president, until he has proven he is qualified to be our president, an action which he as spent untold sums and lawyer time to deliberately prevent any form of disclosure or compliance. I am no fool, and at least half of this country is not, either.


449 posted on 12/08/2008 10:05:28 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EternalVigilance

There is no legitimate reason for Obama to have withheld this simple document all of these months.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN.


450 posted on 12/08/2008 10:06:16 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: bronxboy

Did you read the post I was responding to or just kneejerking?

Since your post made no sense whatsoever, I’ll assume you didn’t. Try reading #402 and get back to me.


451 posted on 12/08/2008 10:06:36 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: luvadavi

George C. Wallace, Jr., formed the American Independent Party in 1968; he left it in 1969. It has been around since then in decreasing notability.


452 posted on 12/08/2008 10:06:37 AM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Please tell us the name of the Doctor who delivered him

[crickets]

453 posted on 12/08/2008 10:07:31 AM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: EternalVigilance

There is no legitimate reason for Obama to have withheld this simple document all of these months.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN.


454 posted on 12/08/2008 10:07:58 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: LS
Ok. Good enough. I will remove you from my “kook list.” But remember, he doesn’t have to prove anything. Those bringing the suits have the burden of “pwoof.”

If someone walked into your business to fill a slot that required certain credentials, would the burden fall on you to prove that he didn't have such credentials? If he claimed to have such credentials but later serious doubt was raised about whether he told the truth, whose responsibility would it be to clear things up?

It's nonsense to say that anyone but Obama has the burden of proof in this case.

455 posted on 12/08/2008 10:09:30 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Hey Horowitz! Just because we don't swing left doesn't mean we're "unhinged".)
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To: EternalVigilance

The Court denied the lawsuit, meaning that the original Obama birth certificate was not subject to public revelation based upon the strength of the arguments presented. One implication of that ruling is that the certified copy must be relied upon in the absence of evidence that it was fake (or tampered with, or superceded). Evidence is what is required: not speculation.


456 posted on 12/08/2008 10:09:53 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: real_patriotic_american

I highly doubt ANYTHING or ANYONE is going to shut this guy up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJc6uczdhE0


457 posted on 12/08/2008 10:10:07 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: Yaelle

I think they have what it takes to stand up. Talk to EternalVigilance on FREEP. He can tell you all about the party.


458 posted on 12/08/2008 10:10:22 AM PST by atlbelle44
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To: bronxboy
No one cares about this.

Some do. And a few of those might do something about it.

459 posted on 12/08/2008 10:10:46 AM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Before the election, Fukino issued a statement saying that she and the registrar of vital statistics had personally examined the birth certificate and found it to be valid.

Sorry, but like many many other reporters, they make an assumption that just because there IS A birth certificate, that it says what Obama posted on his website. (Many copied the AP Press release stating that. Seems that is standard nowadays, to just repeat even incorrect information) No, in Hawaii, you can request a birth certificate to be issued if you had your child outside the state. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm) Here is exactly what Fukimo said: (http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf) That October 31, 2008 statement says that Dr. Fukino "ha[s] personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." That statement does not, however, verify that Obama was born in Hawaii, and as explained above, under Hawaiian policies and procedures it is quite possible that Hawaii may have a birth record of a person not born in Hawaii. Unlikely, but possible.

460 posted on 12/08/2008 10:12:15 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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