Posted on 12/06/2008 9:43:49 PM PST by pissant
The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president is embarrassing and destructive. The fact that these efforts are being led by Alan Keyes, an unhinged demagogue on the political fringe who lost a senate election to the then unknown Obama by 42 points should be a warning in itself.
This tempest over whether Obama, the child of an American citizen, was born on American soil is tantamount to the Democrats' seditious claim that Bush "stole" the election in Florida and hence was not the legitimate president. This delusion helped to create the Democrats' Bush derangement syndrome and encouraged Democratic leaders to lie about the origins of the Iraq War, and regard it as illegitimate as Bush himself. It became "Bush's War" rather than an American War with destructive consequences for our troops and our cause.
The Birth Certificate zealots are essentially arguing that 64 million voters should be disenfranchised because of a contested technicality as to whether Obama was born on U.S. soil. (McCain narrowly escaped the problem by being born in the Panama Canal zone, which is no longer American.)
What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on US soil? Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the Constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for President trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if 5 Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots?
Conservatives are supposed to respect the organic nature of human societies. Ours has been riven by profound disagreements that have been deepening over many years. We are divided not only about political facts and social values, but also about what the Constitution itself means. The crusaders on this issue choose to ignore these problems and are proposing to deny the will of 64 million voters by appealing to 5 Supreme Court Justices (since no one is delusional enough to think that the 4 liberal justices are going to take the presidency away from Obama). What kind of conservatism is this?
It is not conservatism; it is sore loserism and quite radical in its intent. Respect for election results is one of the most durable bulwarks of our unity as a nation. Conservatives need to accept the fact that we lost the election, and get over it; and get on with the important business of reviving our country's economy and defending its citizens, and -- by the way -- its Constitution.
If Horowitz was in the SDS then he’s a communist troll.
“It’s about lying to the nation, forging Government documents and trying to hoodwink the population with them, it’s about concealing vital information, it about outrageous arrogance and dishonesty and the abuse of power.”
In a nutshell. Who is Barack Obama?
Yep that's it...but it's too late now...like I said...too many Obami Kool-ade drinkers and hand-out seekers. What really needs to happen is for all these immature liberal socialists to be potty trained and grow up...but that's not likely to happen anytime soon.
I know exactly why he is taking this road. It's a win win for the commie elites. They don't give a crap which puppet they end up with in the oval office, Hillary or Bambi...doen't matter to them, they still get to run things. Their goal is to trash the Constitution to gain more power for their global war on Freedom.
If they can get 65 million people to scream about changing the Constitution, they will be as frizy as Hitler's shorts. It's all about destruction....we 'ens love us some destruction. I'm sure they would probably laugh at the media attention it would bring.
If Obama is found ineligible then he will tell the state delegates to put in Hillary, but not before they get people to call our Constitution stupid. That's what they really want. Obama is just window dressing to these robotic communist fanatics.
If Horowitz was in the SDS then he’s a communist troll.
I, too, am surprised at Horowitz' opinion on this.
If Obama was, in fact, an ineligible candidate, then he would not have gotten those 65 million votes that Horowitz is now using to justify not doing anything.
How do we prevent a person from hiding behind privacy laws to prevent fraudulent qualifications from being exposed? One can't use the law to cover up a crime, can they?
If Obama is not qualified, and if his hospital birth certificate shows that, then those who are preventing its disclosure are accessories to the fraud. If his hospital birth certificate shows he's a natural born citizen, then why is Obama not just releasing it?
Horowitz must understand that these issues of eligibility, and responsiblity for determining it, must be resolved now, regardless of who's presidency is on the line. The current case before the court is questioning how the various Secretaries of State allowed a Nicaraguan-born candidate to get on the ballot, not about Obama's birth certificate.
Even Horowitz must recognize the bigger picture at stake here.
-PJ
Finally, no election takes precedence over the U.S. Constitution
Did you sleep through the longest campaign in history?
The question has been asked... and asked... and asked. And, here we are... still asking. sheesh, the whole country is stuck on dumb.
I think Horowitz is simply trying to gain credibility by throwing conservatives off the bus. Sad.
when McCain was born, both of his parents are US citizens, and he was born on a US naval base. case closed.
The point is that we are not arguing to overturn a Democratic victory. The victory would go to Senator Joe Biden if Obama were ineligible.
I don’t expect Obamah to be turfed. But 5-4 against him would be a great result.
this is a dead issue.
***Obama could have made it go away for $10. Instead, he chooses to spend 6 orders of magnitude more money to fight it. There is no other issue where we have that much leverage against him.
If Arnold can’t be POTUS because he was born in Austria then why can 0bama be POTUS if he has not proved he was born in Hawaii not Kenya as so much evidence indicates?
“Gotta be a reason, folks”
Great point, so here’s the answer FEAR.
I’ve listened to Rush for 18 years, sad to say but Thursday was my last day.
I didn't drink the Kool-ade so can't say for sure but it seems that if you do you through out all cogent thought, existing law and the Constitution because you think in your own delusional mind you are electing the second coming of Christ. The end justifies the means.
opps I meant “throw” out all cogent thought...it’s late...:o)
I do not understand how it automatically goes to Biden. IF Bama is not a qualified candidate then his votes do NOT count, and Biden did not as a candidate received one literal vote on his own. Now the electoral college might select Biden if Bama is not qualified.
Limbaugh is behaving nearly as badly as Obama is in this debacle by remaining silent. He's touted himself as a paragon of conservatism for umpteen years, and now when the severest threat to our constitutional form of government arises, he's dead mute on the subject.
He, and every other high profile talker and blogger who isn't seriously discussing this issue is guilty of ignorance at best, and of compromised principles at worst.
Perhaps so. The constitution isn’t clear on some of this depending on when he is declared ineligible.
Be that as it may, the Democrats won, and the Republicans lost. That isn’t going to change as far as I know.
This is about something a lot more important than an electoral victory.
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