Posted on 12/05/2008 6:33:15 AM PST by maineman
I thought we should have a link to post any and all updates.
Gov Richardson saying Obama was an immigrant. In Spanish.
Richardson revelation-Obama is an immigrant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5OUdj_YIpo
The Supreme Court is not required to hear most cases that come up on appeal. A petition for a writ of certoriari is filed which is a request to the Court to take the case under consideration. There are standards for what cases the “Court will take — i.e., constitutional question, conflicting lower court decisions, etc. But in all cases, it is discretionary with the Court as to whether to grant a writ of certoriari. Had the Court granted it, the parties would proceed to the merits by filing briefs, holding an oral argument. The Supreme Court DOES NOT take evidence, it only looks at the record from the lower court.”
So the case is DOA? Or are their other possibilities?
Thanks, Kevmo. Good answer. Apparently it's difficult for some freepers to grasp this concept.
What?
Is there a ruling on this yet or not?
Exactly, who knows? That’s why it would be nice to see the birth certificate. All this is speculation without actually knowing with certainty where he was even born.
Then all we need to know is whether the evidence is admissible. That’s for the court to decide.
The evidence produced by Obama on his fightthesmears website was proven to be a forgery by guys like Polarik. So the Supremes would be deep in the muck on Berg vs. Obama, trying to wade through which evidence is trustworthy and which isn’t. That’s likely one reason why they docketed Donofrio first, so they can just declare what the meaning of “natural born” is and wash their hands of all that goo coming their way through the court systems.
This particular one is DOA unless he goes back through the process with a better case.
My concern isn’t whether the Dems win or lose. I am interested in preserving the Constitution. It’s been trashed enough as it is.
This particular case is DOA but there are other cases working their way up. My guess is the Court will hear none of them. If it wanted to consider them, it probably would have accepted this case and then consolidated the later cases into this case and to decide them all at once.
One parent, with five years of residence after the birth was the standard, but the facts he presented in his books indicate that he would fail even that. (?)
The bottom line is that the Electoral College will meet 12.15.08 and elect Obama by a 2:1 margin over McCain and on 1.20.09 Chief Justice Roberts will deliver the Oath of Office to Obama.
It is not something I look forward to but that is what happens when the GOP nominates a bad candidate who runs a bad campaign.
And if the question of Obama’s birth were an issue, it would have been raised by the Clintons during the Dem. Primaries or by the RNC or Sarah Palin during the General Election.
That’s assuming the COLB is not fake and the original registration with the State of Hawaii was not the source fraud.
***I gather you mean that YOU are assuming the CoLB is not fake. It’s been proven a forgery by Polarik.
As far as the “original registration” there are multiple lines of inquiry and possibility. Assumptions at this stage of firestorm are usually not tenable.
Lower appellate courts decide all the cases filed with them-- the trial court's decision can be upheld, modified, or reversed, but the court of appeals has to do something. The Supreme Court is different-- it only decides the cases it wants to hear. Thousands of cases are filed with it every year, but it only actually hears and decides about 75-80.
What happens is that the party who loses below files a "petition for certiorari"; the other party (the one who won below) can (but doesn't have to, and often doesn't) respond; and the Court then either "grants certiorari" or "denies certiorari." If cert. is granted, that means the Court has decided that it will hear the case; the parties then get to file briefs, oral argument is scheduled, and a decision is eventually rendered. If the court "denies certiorari," that means it has decided not to hear the case. The effect is that the lower court's decision stands, and there is no furhter action in the Supreme Court.
That's why this is the case they are hearing.
The substance of an adverse ruling will not matter, because the actual substance will never be reported. The mediots that have been ignoring this issue will suddenly find it newsworthy to trumpet that the supreme Court has ruled Obama to be 'eligible'.
I totally agree with you there but if they get the media attention for this you will have 65 million people screaming for an amendment to get their messiah in. Big, big trouble. I hope our SCOTUS holds it together.
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