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SCOTUS Re: Obama....Live Thread

Posted on 12/05/2008 6:33:15 AM PST by maineman

I thought we should have a link to post any and all updates.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho; birth; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; donofrio; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; obamatruthsquad; odinga; scotus
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To: Kevmo

Even Donofrio believes that Obama was born in Hawaii.

I have faith that Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Alito will make the right decision in this case.


341 posted on 12/05/2008 10:40:48 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Merlinator; LucyT; Grampa Dave; unspun; Blu By U; seekthetruth; All

Electoral College: Apparently Dead California Elector Raises Questions

Posted on December 3rd, 2008

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Electoral College Scandal:
At Least One California Elector is Dead

Dead people are voting in the Electoral College? What’s up with that?

From Electoral College scam: Where dead people vote; Lawyer challenging eligibility seeks investigation of process

According to Gary Kreep, executive director of the United States Justice Foundation, the clerks have been advised about the “irregularity” in the list of electors provided by the Democratic Partyin California.

“In the 28th Congressional District (Congressman Howard Berman), situated in Los Angeles County, Ilene Huber is listed as the presidential elector designated in that district.

However, as shown in the attached certified statement of Dean C. Logan, registrar-recorder/county clerk of the county of Los Angeles, state of California, there is no Ilene Huber listed as a registered voter in the County of Los Angeles.

A statewide search of public records has revealed only one Ilene Huber in the state of California, and she is deceased-a copy of her certificate of death is attached hereto as well,” the advisory said.

“Further, according to Chris Myers, director of research for the California Democratic Party, who submitted the list of presidential electors for the Democratic Party to the office of the California secretary of state
, there are additional, undisclosed, ‘errors’ in the list of electors.

This admission was made in a telephone conversation with a representative of the American Independent Party on or about November 20, 2008,” the letter continued.

http://www.bloggernews.net/118853


342 posted on 12/05/2008 10:41:02 AM PST by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: seekthetruth

How soon will we know?


343 posted on 12/05/2008 10:41:14 AM PST by Godsgirl
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To: flyfree

And when were these cases heard?


344 posted on 12/05/2008 10:41:30 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: prismsinc

If Davis were the father, then Obama would be natural born and eligible to be POTUS. Of course, there’d be allegations of fraud and forgery & all that, but he would be president.


345 posted on 12/05/2008 10:41:38 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
...I've NEVER seen any Marxist/Dems praying...

Is "Kumbaya" really a prayer? Maybe it's that new meditation/vigil thingy.

346 posted on 12/05/2008 10:42:07 AM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: editor-surveyor

Specifically this comment was in reference to Donofrio’s claim about both parent’s being citizens with no ‘dual loyalty’ and Donofrio’s assumption Obambi was born in Hawaii. Congress has already made law that states only one parent need be a citizen, not both. I can’t find any existing law that states both parents must be citizens for one to be considered ‘natural born citizen’ if that person is born in the US.


347 posted on 12/05/2008 10:42:12 AM PST by mnehring
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To: jcsjcm

There is no “hearing” — all that is happening today is whether to grant a writ of certoriari — i.e., a decision to let the case proceed. It is my understanding that certoriari was not granted (someone said only two cases were granted) so the case is dead.


348 posted on 12/05/2008 10:42:45 AM PST by hankbrown
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To: Godsgirl

We know. The court DID NOT grant certiorari in the Obama case.

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/orders-12-5-08.pdf


349 posted on 12/05/2008 10:42:47 AM PST by flyfree
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To: STARWISE

Yeah, I heard about the dead electoral voter (democrat) in California. Doesn’t surprise me since many counties cast 125% of their population. Many of these people had been dead for years!


350 posted on 12/05/2008 10:43:06 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: maineman
The Supreme Court has issued its order list from today's conference. The link is here.

Background: when the Supreme Court grants cert. (i.e., decides that they will hear a case), they release that order immediately, because the parties to the case need to start working on their briefs. If the Court denies cert. (decides that they will not hear the case), those orders are not released until the following Monday (because there are so many of them and the clerk's office needs time to put together the full list).

Today's order list grants cert. in two cases, neither one of them an Obama eligibility case. We won't know for sure until the Monday order list comes out it the cases were denied (it's possible they postponed consideration to a later conference, though I think that's unlikely), or if anyone dissented from the denial, but if I had to bet, I would say that the Court will simply decline to hear these cases without any comment.

351 posted on 12/05/2008 10:43:06 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Kevmo
If Davis were the father, then Obama would be natural born and eligible to be POTUS. Of course, there’d be allegations of fraud and forgery & all that, but he would be president.

Then Bambi would simply state he was the victim of this, not the perpetrator.

352 posted on 12/05/2008 10:43:17 AM PST by mnehring
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To: DJ MacWoW

Which Freeper?


353 posted on 12/05/2008 10:43:42 AM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: BP2; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; ...

Oh, I don’t agree with the comment.

I was pointing out the ridiculousness of his statement and the fact that a lot of people believe 0bama is eligible because he was voted in.

The very fact so many people believe it ruined my day.


354 posted on 12/05/2008 10:43:53 AM PST by LucyT
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To: CodeToad

That is not Defronio’s rationale. The mother’s American citizenship “does not mitigate” the father’s status as British subject and citizen, regardless of birthplace. One possible interpretation is that neither parent can have a loyalty to any other foreign nation, and that is what makes Obama not a citizen. You can see it’s a fine line, and that’s why it would be fascinating for the court to take up.


355 posted on 12/05/2008 10:44:54 AM PST by baa39 (www.FightFOCA.com - innocent lives depend on you)
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To: BP2

Welcome to Nazi Germany II. Obama camps are probably being constructed hastily by Liberal Brown Shirts.


356 posted on 12/05/2008 10:45:06 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: flyfree

site wrong or overwhelmed?

Link no work...


357 posted on 12/05/2008 10:45:31 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: flyfree

“We know. The court DID NOT grant certiorari in the Obama case.http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/orders-12-5-08.pdf";

Would you splain that in English for one of the great unwashed....me? What does not granting “certiorari” mean?


358 posted on 12/05/2008 10:45:32 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: etraveler13; couchpotatoxxx12

If the EC electors elect Obama, and then between Dec 15 and Jan 20 Obama is ruled ineligible, THEN Biden would become Acting President on Jan 20. (20th Amendment)

That might or might not be what couchpotatoxxx12 meant. I can’t tell by the phrasing s/he used.


359 posted on 12/05/2008 10:45:58 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: jcsjcm

My understanding is that if he were born in Hawaii the citizenship of his parents would be irrelevant. If you are born on US soil, you are a US citizen. He was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather and by that was given Indonesian citizenship. Supposedly if you become an Indonesian citizen, you must give up any other claim to citizenship. So where did that leave Barry? There is also the question of him not registering for the selective service when he was required to. On what passport did he travel to Pakistan in the 80s? Maybe he enjoys being a man of mystery.


360 posted on 12/05/2008 10:46:25 AM PST by Merlinator (January 20. 2009, A National Day of Mourning)
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