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SCOTUS Re: Obama....Live Thread

Posted on 12/05/2008 6:33:15 AM PST by maineman

I thought we should have a link to post any and all updates.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho; birth; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; donofrio; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; obamatruthsquad; odinga; scotus
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To: jcsjcm

No. 08A391
Title: Philip J. Berg, Applicant
v.
Barack Obama, et al.

Docketed:
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
Case Nos.: (08-4340)

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct 31 2008 Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter.
Nov 3 2008 Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed.
Nov 3 2008 Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter.

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a391.htm

No. 08-570
Title: Philip J. Berg, Petitioner
v.
Barack Obama, et al.

Docketed: October 31, 2008
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
Case Nos.: (08-4340)
Rule 11

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct 30 2008 Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008)
Oct 31 2008 Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter.
Nov 3 2008 Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed.
Nov 3 2008 Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter.
Nov 18 2008 Waiver of right of respondents Federal Election Commission, et al. to respond filed.

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm


321 posted on 12/05/2008 10:29:06 AM PST by flyfree
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To: mquinn

Here is the link to the Electoral College, I read it all, nothing you said here matches what their duty or options are.
Show me...
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#tie


322 posted on 12/05/2008 10:29:48 AM PST by etraveler13
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To: netmilsmom

It doesn’t matter if McCain was born in Kenya. He was born to two American citizens, not one American citizen and one British subject of the Crown as was Obama. If your parents are married and full U.S. citizens without any dual citizenship, you are a citizen regardless of where you’re born.


323 posted on 12/05/2008 10:30:32 AM PST by baa39 (www.FightFOCA.com - innocent lives depend on you)
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To: maineman

I sent an email to “Judicial Watch” asking if they were following the Donofrio v.Wells case and here is their response sent today:

“Thank you for your email. I have forwarded it on to Tom. Various parties have filed lawsuits employing different legal strategies challenging whether Mr. Obama is a “natural born” citizen. Our lawyers are monitoring
those cases.

If someone is born on US soil, they are born a citizen regardless of the citizenship of their parents, with the exception of children of foreign diplomats. Once one is born a US citizen, it is very difficult to lose
that citizenship. For a case to succeed, the plaintiff will probably have to prove that Obama was not born in the US.

While many claims/rumors are circulating regarding President Elect Obama’s eligibility to be president, as one might expect, there is a big difference between what is circulating for political reasons and what can
be proven in a court of law. While there has been much discussion in the media and on the internet about the circumstances surrounding President Elect Obama’s birth, courts typically do not accept media reports or other
types of “hearsay” as admissible evidence. As far as we are aware, no one has produced admissible evidence, such as a signed, sworn and notarized document by someone who witnessed that Obama was born outside of the U.S.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/about.shtml

They describe themselves on their website as this:
Judicial Watch, Inc., a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law.

The emails says “courts typically do not accept media reports or other types of “hearsay” as admissible evidence.”

In Donofrio case, he points to Obama’s website regarding Obama admission he was a British citizen at birth.

Do you suppose that would be considered inadmissible by the Supremes?


324 posted on 12/05/2008 10:30:41 AM PST by joygrace
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To: meadsjn

The Constitution places no favor on political parties, and the SCOTUS is not supposed to either.
***Unfortunately there is a huge gap between “supposed to” and “is”. Today the SCOTUS needs to jump that gap; that’s why they are there. If they fail to do so, their own positions become meaningless.

The SCOTUS has a variety of options, if they choose to stop this fraud.
***And if they choose not to stop it, today is the last day of our constitutional republic.


325 posted on 12/05/2008 10:31:13 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
"Bless those Patriots demonstrating at The Supreme Court - they are standing up for ALL of US and The Constitution!"

What makes you think they are patriots? Most likely Marxist/Dem plants looking to stir up debate in the media over the "outdated" Constitution and get a "world citizen" elected or they are Hilary supporters.

326 posted on 12/05/2008 10:31:25 AM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: seekthetruth
A citizen can be naturalized as in becoming a citizen after being born outside of US soil to citizen parents...

WRONG! Children born of two US parents are US citizens AT BIRTH regardless of where they are born. This has been the law approximately forever.

Your statement above is FALSE!!

Citizens chlidren born abroad DO NOT undergo "naturalizaiton".

Naturalization is not a vague term, it is a process that includes taking tests and culminates in taking an oath of citizenship. American CITIZENS born abroad DO NOT GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

There is ZERO differentiation in law between Citizens BORN ON US SOIL and CITIZENS BORN ELSEWHERE. Both are CITIZENS and both are NATURAL BORN CITIZENS. (IE: Their citizenship is a result of their BIRTH and not granted via NATURALIZATION.)

327 posted on 12/05/2008 10:31:51 AM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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To: All

SCOTUSBlog now lists the cases they’ve granted cert for in today’s conference. No mention of Donofrio.


328 posted on 12/05/2008 10:32:03 AM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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Should I read anything into the fact that we haven’t heard anything yet? Does this mean that the deliberation is going longer than expected?


329 posted on 12/05/2008 10:32:10 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: flyfree

Incorrect case:
No. 08-570
Title:
Philip J. Berg, Petitioner
v.
Barack Obama, et al.
Docketed: October 31, 2008
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
Case Nos.: (08-4340)
Rule 11

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct 30 2008 Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008)
Oct 31 2008 Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter.
Nov 3 2008 Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed.
Nov 3 2008 Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter.
Nov 18 2008 Waiver of right of respondents Federal Election Commission, et al. to respond filed.

~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~Phone~~~
Attorneys for Petitioner:
Philip J. Berg 555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12 (610) 825-3134
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Party name: Philip J. Berg
Attorneys for Respondents:
Gregory G. Garre Solicitor General (202) 514-2217
United States Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, DC 20530-0001
Party name: Federal Election Commission, et al.


330 posted on 12/05/2008 10:32:22 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: Kevmo

No, I just have reason to believe that Obama is Constitutionally qualified to serve as president.


331 posted on 12/05/2008 10:33:15 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: joygrace

As far as we are aware, no one has produced admissible evidence, such as a signed, sworn and notarized document by someone who witnessed that Obama was born outside of the U.S.”
***Has anyone produced “admissible evidence, such as a signed, sworn and notarized document by someone who witnessed that Obama was born INside of the U.S.”???


332 posted on 12/05/2008 10:33:27 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Kevmo

Nope and nope!


333 posted on 12/05/2008 10:34:50 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: trumandogz

You do have reason to believe it because it is likely that he was born in Hawaii. And we have reason to believe otherwise because of his obfuscations on this subject. Since the CONSTITUTION says that a person SHALL NOT BE ELIGIBLE unless conditions are met, the conditions need to be met by Obama.


334 posted on 12/05/2008 10:35:21 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Grampa Dave

BO is going to look bad no matter how this unfolds. If he can’t produce a BC that shows the hospital or attending physician to be in the US, he is toast.
If he does produce his long form BC and it shows he was born in a US hospital his eligibility is not in question, but he would certainly appear to be extremely arrogant by not producing the proof earlier. He is either a fraud or he feels that he is above being accountable to US citizens including the libtards that voted for him. Even if we have “no standing” to demand proof, one would think he would want to voluntarily be transparent on this matter and be straight with the American people.


335 posted on 12/05/2008 10:36:45 AM PST by Merlinator (January 20. 2009, A National Day of Mourning)
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To: Earthdweller
What makes you think they are patriots? Most likely Marxist/Dem plants

I could be wrong, but I've NEVER seen any Marxist/Dems praying, so perhaps you might forgive my assumption.

336 posted on 12/05/2008 10:37:14 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (NO Usurpers in the White House - NObama)
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To: Earthdweller; The Sons of Liberty

A FReeper organized this on SCOTUS steps. I’m sure he’s a marxist plant.


337 posted on 12/05/2008 10:37:51 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Kevmo

Lest we forget the claim that Frank Marshall Davis is the real Father...


338 posted on 12/05/2008 10:39:45 AM PST by prismsinc (AIP works for ME!!!!)
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To: Merlinator
But there is so much more than just the BC in his situation. Having only 1 US citizen and 1 British citizen as parents - does this qualify for natural born (I say no) but the courts need to decide. Another issue is his travel in 1981. If he did have US citizenship did he relinquish it by applying for a passport - did he use his foreign visa to gain access to Columbia and/or Harvard? Did he ever legally change his name back to Barack Obama or is he still legally considered Barry Soetoro.

There is so much more to this deception!
339 posted on 12/05/2008 10:39:54 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: All

The Court granted certiorari in only two cases today — al-Marri v. Pucciarelli (08-368) and Gross v. FBL Financial Services, Inc. (08-441)


340 posted on 12/05/2008 10:40:18 AM PST by flyfree
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