If you’re born to a citizen, you’re a “natural born citizen” whether the venue is Hawaii, Kenya, or Mars. This whole thing is nonsense.
Steve you have been here long enough to have read many times the laws in 1961 for being natural born if only one parent was a citizen and you were born out of the country. His mother didn’t meet that requirement. Argue another point but that one is covered!
Sorry, you are incorrect on that assumption. Changes in the law make that statement more valid today then it was 40 some years ago.
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401
§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States; (e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.
“If you’re born to a citizen, you’re a “natural born citizen” whether the venue is Hawaii, Kenya, or Mars.”
Don’t give up your day job because a Constitutional scholar you are not. Do some research on the subject pal because you’re missing some key components of the case.
That is not a correct statement
“If you’re born to a citizen, you’re a “natural born citizen” “
Uh, nope. You need to read the law.
Please, in the future research sh** before you make stupid comments. I have a broken finger and it is extremely difficult and painful to type!
“If you’re born to a citizen, you’re a “natural born citizen” whether the venue is Hawaii, Kenya, or Mars. This whole thing is nonsense.”
That’s a complete lie. Mars is not a country, and it has no oxygen.
Hawaii and Kenya do have enough oxygen to sustain a mother and her baby during labor, but to be a natural born citizen the newborn cannot be subject to foreign jurisdiction.
You know, you really should just sit quietly and look like a fool rather than open your mouth and prove it..
The technicalities surrounding 0bama's status have been discussed ad inifinitum for the last three months in this forum and you clearly haven't been paying attention and I am not going to waste my time educating you. Suffice it to say you are totally uninformed, and need to read the 1952 Immigration and Naturalization act as it it stood in 1961.
When you've done that, come back and contribute to the discussion.
thank you.
“If you’re born to a citizen, you’re a “natural born citizen” whether the venue is Hawaii, Kenya, or Mars. This whole thing is nonsense.”
Not true! Age of the mother, her time in the US, wheither you have dual citizenship, adopted at a young age by a citizen of another country, etc.
Mother being a citizen of the US is “one” of the requirements to be considered a “natural born citizen”.
You are dead wrong. My son-in-law was born in Europe to an American mother, and while he is a citizen, he is not a Natural Born Citizen. LOOK UP THE LAW.
Maybe you should do a little reading on this subject before making such an unknowledgeble statement:-)