Anti-Obama Fringe to Descend Upon Supreme Court Tomorrow (Libtards in Denial)

ABC ^ | 12/4/08 | Jake Tapper

[pissant]

The justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will tomorrow discuss whether or not it should take up the case of Leo C. Donofrio, Applicant, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, New Jersey Secretary of State, a case that challenges the citizenship of President-elect Obama.

After the Justices meet -- and assuredly decline to hear the matter -- the anti-Obama activists supporting the case will hold a vigil near the steps of the highest Court in the land.

The theory -- which is without evidence -- is that Mr. Obama's birth certificate is faked, and that he was not born in Hawaii but rather Kenya, making him ineligible for the presidency. (Or, alternately, that the birth certificate proves only that Mr. Obama was born at some point, not that he was born in Hawaii.)

The Obama campaign says that's nonsense, that he was born in Hawaii, has a birth certificate, and is a natural born U.S. citizen. Period.

As Hawaii's Pacific Business News reported in October: "The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed on Friday what Barack Obama has been saying all along: the presidential candidate was born in Honolulu. 'There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate,' said Chiyome Fukino. 'State law prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.' Citing her statutory authority to oversee and maintain Hawaii’s vital records, Fukino said she has 'personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. No state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State

[government is the beast]

Whenever these so called reporters start spewing their propaganda just ask them if anyone from the press can answer two simple questions. What hospital was Obama born in, and who was the attending physician. They don’t seem to want to (can’t) answer these questions and it points out how little they know as well as well as how bad they are as “reporters”.

[Boardwalk]

The power Obama has that these institutions such as Harvard and Occiental do not need to show his history, his works, his destiny is proof of the socialist agenda of the liberals who teach at universities. These liberals actually take sabaticals just to fight for the cause! They have been so burned through the Bush years.

[Don Corleone]

God save the Republic!

[Don Corleone]

If it is found that Obama is not natural born, having been President doesn’t qualify him to be elected again.

And BTW will also invalidate EVERY action he had taken during the time and subject him and his facilitators to possible prosecution.

[reasonisfaith]

“If you’re born to a citizen, you’re a “natural born citizen” whether the venue is Hawaii, Kenya, or Mars. This whole thing is nonsense.”

That’s a complete lie. Mars is not a country, and it has no oxygen.

Hawaii and Kenya do have enough oxygen to sustain a mother and her baby during labor, but to be a natural born citizen the newborn cannot be subject to foreign jurisdiction.

[dajeeps]

INA: ACT 349 - LOSS OF NATIONALITY BY NATIVE-BORN OR NATURALIZED CITIZEN

Sec. 349. [8 U.S.C. 1481]

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality-

(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

INA: ACT 308 - NATIONALS BUT NOT CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AT BIRTH

Sec. 308. [8 U.S.C. 1408] Unless otherwise provided in section 301 of this title, the following shall be nationals, but not citizens of the United States at birth:

(1) A person born in an outlying possession of the United States on or after the date of formal acquisition of such possession;

(2) A person born outside the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are nationals, but not citizens, of the United States, and have had a residence in the United States, or one of its outlying possessions prior to the birth of such person;

(3) A person of unknown parentage found in an outlying possession of the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty- one years, not to have been born in such outlying possession; and

(4) A person born outside the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a national, but not a citizen, of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than seven years in any continuous period of ten years-

(A) during which the national parent was not outside the United States or its outlying possessions for a continuous period of more than one year, and

(B) at least five years of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.

The proviso of section 301(g) shall apply to the national parent under this paragraph in the same manner as it applies to the citizen parent under that section.

[Wil H]

If you’re born to a citizen, you’re a “natural born citizen” whether the venue is Hawaii, Kenya, or Mars. This whole thing is nonsense.

You know, you really should just sit quietly and look like a fool rather than open your mouth and prove it..

The technicalities surrounding 0bama's status have been discussed ad inifinitum for the last three months in this forum and you clearly haven't been paying attention and I am not going to waste my time educating you. Suffice it to say you are totally uninformed, and need to read the 1952 Immigration and Naturalization act as it it stood in 1961.

When you've done that, come back and contribute to the discussion.

thank you.

[PA-RIVER]

“I just find it strange that Obama refuses to publish his actual birth certificate.”

Maybe where he is from, Kenya or Indonesia or Chicago, and being a Natural Born British citizen, it's common practice to ignore the law. Maybe this all seems normal to him.

So dont fault him.

[nufsed]

Have you ever walked into an event which was closed and invitation only? I have many times by just going through the door at an opportune time. Once you get in the room, you may not be questioned if you dress like the others.

This guy ran for 18 months, got the most votes, and is headed toward an inaguration and I don't think anyone said "Hey! Wait a minute? Are you natural born?" Probably could lie about age if you didn't go to shcool in the states.

No one is responsible for anything. This is a time when we are really relying on the court to say Show the damn certificate.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Okay, which of those apply to Obama?

[Don Corleone]

My mother immigrated here in 1961 and became a citizen in the early 70’s. She is still an Italian citizen and holds an Italian passport as well as a US passport. I even had an Italian (as well as US) passport until the the age of 17 or so

If she did she committed an illegal act since taking the oath of citizenship here requires you to disavow allegiance to any foreign government or potentate. Check it out.

[editor-surveyor]

"What will the MSM do if the SCOTUS takes the case?"

There will be an immediate shrill outcry from the Drive-By Media, denouncing the "illegitimate Supreme Court," and calling for blood to run in the streets.

[dajeeps]

The site were I found the text of the la, doesn’t list the parts that were repealed. However, the point that if one applies for citizenship to another contry one will lose their US citizenship is still valid.

I’m still looking for the parts that apply to the adoption issue... stay tuned.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f3829c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=f3829c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD stay tuned. :)

[TNoldman]

“If you’re born to a citizen, you’re a “natural born citizen” whether the venue is Hawaii, Kenya, or Mars. This whole thing is nonsense.”

Not true! Age of the mother, her time in the US, wheither you have dual citizenship, adopted at a young age by a citizen of another country, etc.

Mother being a citizen of the US is “one” of the requirements to be considered a “natural born citizen”.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

However, the point that if one applies for citizenship to another contry one will lose their US citizenship is still valid.

"after having attained the age of eighteen years"

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

However, the point that if one applies for citizenship to another contry one will lose their US citizenship is still valid.

"after having attained the age of eighteen years"

[Big_Monkey]

Paisan...

I invite you to review the below link.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

If I may borrow a short quote..

“A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another”

Regardless what the oath says, the law is intentionally vague on this matter. Congress has never wanted to create a citizenship police corps (for good reason), and as a matter of course has allowed tens and tens of millions of naturalized citizens to maintain citizenship in their birth country. It may be arguably contradictory to the oath of citizenship, but there’s nothing illegal about it.

Ciao

[real_patriotic_american]

When someone hides something, they have something to hide. I personally believe that Obama’s original birth certificate will show that he is not eligible to serve as President.

Obama’s grandmother indicates that she was present when Obama was born in Kenya.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244

[fr_freak]

To avoid riots, maybe the Supremes will decide that the affadavit of a government official is enough evidence, making the actual certificate unnecessary.

And this is where we on the right are failing: the Supreme Court, as well as all the other branches of government, should be equally if not more afraid of OUR reaction if they don't address this issue to our satisfaction. Otherwise, the leftists thugs rule this country once and for all, and any law in the land can be subverted if the leftists don't like it. Is that the kind of country you want to live in? Where the law is merely what the leftist mobs say it is?

[fr_freak]

So, let’s have the patience and in 2012, elect a Republican President, preferably Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindall as VP.

Not no, but hell no. If we don't get satisfaction on this issue, whether it proves him eligible or not, then we should raise hell every minute of every day until he does. If the branches of government refuse to enforce the Constitution, then we should revolt. Period. The alternative is to be ruled by a party of people rather than the law, and that is no different than the Soviet way.