Posted on 12/04/2008 12:37:19 AM PST by malkee
Good comments.
I especially like: “I am also very very angry with our so called conservative voices, Rush, Laura et al. They are not brave enough to come out and talk about this. THEY ARE COWARDS!!! How dare they sit in judgement of others who keep silent when they do exactly the same.”
I agree.
Other than the minor detail that he won both the popular and electoral vote by the largest margin in quite a few years.
I'd be very happy to have the SC review his eligibility.
But if they decline to do so, perhaps because the Constitution gives them no specific right to decide whether a president meets the qualifications, let's not forget that he DID win the election.
My personal opinion is that the Founders assumed the Electors would decide whether a candidate was qualified or not. As our system has evolved over time, the College has become a rubber stamp, leaving no mechanism to decide such critical issues.
It is so clear what has happened here. I can accept the results if he won fair and square, but he did not did he?
I am outraged that there is no mechanism in place to avoid this from happening.
If this case or others do not get a fair hearing, then I will have to assume that the constitution is not worth the parchment it is written on.
We have clearly stepped into Mob rule governance. Like I have said here before, the american public has been conned by a fraud and usurper. I will not participate in this fraud.
False. It asks whether Obama is a "natural born citizen", not a citizen. He is a citizen, but he has not proven that he is a "natural born citizen", which is a more stringent standard.
I have my doubts if the man is even a citizen. Even if he was born in Kenya, in theory IF his mother was a US citizen, as I understand it, she would have had to live in the US 5 years after her 14th birthday to pass on “natural born” US citizenship to Nobama. The contention is, that she waan’t 19 yet when she gave birth to him.
Also it is known that Nobama had schooling in Indonsia, when at that time ONLY Indonesians could attend the public schools. What kind of “entry papers” did nobama use after to get into the US?
It’s possible that nobama may technically be an illegal alien. In which case he shoulkd be thrown the hell out of the US
I like “Principled”’s screen name. That word is totally missing in the Dem’s make up.
My fear is that an honest evaluation of BO’s past and associates would even horrify 1/2 of the Lefties. They would realize that they are only “useful idiots” and now expendable, by their champion. More of them under the bus after the election.
Talk about “buyers remorse”!
There is not now and never has been a constitutional mechanism by which a presidential candidate presents his credentials and is approved as a valid candidate.
Perhaps there should be, but there isn’t. To the extent the issue has been considered, which isn’t much, it has always been assumed that a free press would investigate and publicize any such issues, then the voters would make their decision.
The difference is that the media was operating in full Pravda mode during this election. They were cheerleaders and proponents, not referees.
What happened to the last one to go to the USSC? They were supposed to make a decision before the election. I don’t see much hope.
“If this case or others do not get a fair hearing, then I will have to assume that the constitution is not worth the parchment it is written on.”
The constitution has always been “just words”, the worth was/is in the people who believe, and apply the principles stated in the document. When they are gone the words are meaningless. By the way you should strike through the word “die” in your tagline, some people are offended by it.
Friday's inevitable headline: "U.S. Supreme Court throws out Obama Birth Certificate Lawsuit, Will not Hear Case"
It made Google’s top news stories this morning (U.S. Section)
http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&topic=n
It also made the print edition of the Atlanta Journal this morning. (They have it all wrong, but it is mentioned.) It was in the first section, but I don’t know which page, since I refuse to purchase their liberal garbage.
http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2008/12/04/scotus.html
No I will not. Nobody has complained until now, you.
“Live Free or Die” is the motto of the U.S. state of New Hampshire. It is on thier license plates for cry’in out loud.
Also Patrick Henry’s famed March 23, 1775 speech: “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”
I truly believe in these statements; it is how I feel and I suspect most people here feel the same way.
Thomas Sowell explains it in “Conflict of Visions”.
Liberals think that their own intellect, coupled with information unavailable to the people who wrote and passed laws and the Constitution in the past,
trump all agreements made before present time that don’t fit what their current “reason” tells them (often clouded by emotion and desire for an outcome) - including law, judicial precedent, Constitutions, marriage vows, treaties, etc.
P.S.
The Constitution is not just words to me!! It is the law we live by. Too much blood has been spilt over these “just words” as you say.
It is an insult to our fallen warriors be it 200 years ago or recently.
“No I will not. Nobody has complained until now, you.”
Sorry, I did not mean to offend, was referring to this “In 1977, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the case of Wooley v. Maynard, 430 U.S. 705, that New Hampshire could not prosecute motorists who chose to hide part or all of the motto. That ruling came about because George Maynard, a Jehovah’s Witness, cut off “or die” from his plate. He found the phrase offensive because according to his faith, Jehovah’s Kingdom offers everlasting life and it would be contrary to that belief to die for an earthly government. He was convicted of breaking a state law against altering license plates”
I am well aware of the sentiments of the motto, and I share them. I also like my state’s motto (two actually), 1) Dum spiro spero (While I breathe, I hope) 2) Animis opibusque parati (Ready in soul and resource). The two, at least to me, seem to go together like faith and works, both of them are necessary. Sometime, even my friends don’t know how to take me, I’ve always had that problem.
Yeah, I read about that case. Interesting. No, I will not take offense. No problem. ;-)
This man has no business sitting in the oval. He lied and cheated and used various voter fraud methods while the people in charge stood by and did nothing, and now we are supposed to just say oh well and step into line.The "foreign born" issue is yet to be proven one way or the other, but one thing is certain: his campaign was heavily foreign-financed. That alone should disqualify him.
For whatever it’s worth, wikileaks.org has posted Barack Obama’s birth announcement. This is reportedly from a Hawaiian newspaper’s microfilm archives, which were found in a library.
PDF Link: http://wikileaks.org/leak/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf
You can find his announcement 4th from the bottom on the first column.
I’ve seen reports where the address listed in the Honolulu advertiser didn’t apear to be correct based on speculation that the property was several orders of magnitude above what they could afford.
We also have the conflicting reports as to the hospital he was born in , the blatantly false COLB that seems to be an altered copy of his half-sisters document, relatives reports that he was born in Kenya etc. etc. etc. ,,, I would be very interested to know if Western Union keeps records going back that far .. if he was born in Kenya his parents more than likely sent a telegram to grandma/grandpa rather than call... The state department might be helpful with passport details and such..
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