Posted on 12/03/2008 11:43:31 PM PST by BP2
By James Wright
AFRO Staff Writer
(December 3, 2008) - In a highly unusual move, U.S. Associate Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has asked his colleagues on the court to consider the request of an East Brunswick, N.J. attorney who has filed a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obamas status as a United States citizen.
Thomass action took place after Justice David Souter had rejected a petition known as an application for a stay of writ of certiorari that asked the court to prevent the meeting of the Electoral College on Dec. 15, which will certify Obama as the 44th president of the United States and its first African-American president.
The court has scheduled a Dec. 5 conference on the writ -- just 10 days before the Electoral College meets.
The high courts only African American is bringing the matter to his colleagues as a result of the writ that was filed by attorney Leo Donofrio. Donofrio sued the New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Wells, contending that Obama was not qualified to be on the states presidential ballot because of Donofrios own questions about Obama citizenship.
Donofrio is a retired lawyer who identifies himself as a citizens advocate. The AFRO learned that he is a contributor to naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com, a Web site that raises questions about Obamas citizenship.
Calls made to Donofrios residence were not returned to the AFRO by press time.
Donofrio is questioning Obamas citizenship because the former Illinois senator, whose mom was from Kansas, was born in Hawaii and his father was a Kenyan national. Therefore, Donofrio argues, Obamas dual citizenship does not make Obama a natural born citizen as required by Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution, which states:
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President
...to prevent the meeting of the Electoral College on Dec. 15, which
will certify Obama as the 44th president of the United States...
Donofrio had initially tried to remove the names not only of Obama, but also the names of Republican Party presidential nominee John McCain and Socialist Workers Party Roger Calero from appearing on the Nov. 4 general election ballot in his home state of New Jersey.
McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone when it was a U.S. possession. Calero would be ineligible to be president because he was born in Nicaragua.
After his efforts were unsuccessful in the New Jersey court system, he decided to take his case to a higher level.
On Nov. 6, Souter denied the stay. Donofrio, following the rules of the procedure for the Supreme Court, re-submitted the application as an emergency stay in accordance to Rule 22, which states, in part, that an emergency stay can be given to another justice, which is the choice of the petitioner.
Donofrios choice was Thomas. He submitted the emergency stay to Thomass office on Nov. 14. Thomas accepted the application on Nov. 19 and on that day, submitted it for consideration by his eight colleagues - known as a conference - and scheduled it for Dec. 5.
On Nov. 26, a supplemental brief was filed by Donofrio to the clerks office of the Supreme Court. A letter to the court explaining the reason for the emergency stay was filed on Dec. 1 at the clerks office.
Thomass actions were rare because, by custom, when a justice rejects a petition from his own circuit, the matter is dead. Even if, as can be the case under Rule 22, the matter can be submitted to another justice for consideration, that justice out of respect, will reject it also, said Trevor Morrison, a professor of law at Columbia University School of Law.
Morrison said that Thomass actions are once in a decade. When that does happen, the case has to be of an extraordinary nature and this does not fit that circumstance, he said. My guess would be that Thomas accepted the case so it would go before the conference where it will likely be denied. If Thomas denied the petition, then Donofrio would be free to go to the other justices for their consideration.
This way, I would guess, the matter would be done with. Petitions of Donofrios types are hardly ever granted.
Traditionally, justices do not respond to media queries, according to a spokesman from the Supreme Court Public Information Office.
Thomas was appointed to the Supreme Court by President George H.W. Bush in 1991 and has been one of its most conservative members.
Before his ascension to the court, he was appointed by Bush to the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. Earlier, he served as chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission - appointed by President Reagan - and worked various jobs under former Republican Sen. John Danforth.
It would take a simple majority of five justices to put Donofrios emergency stay on the oral argument docket. Because it is an emergency by design, the argument would take place within days.
Donofrio wants the court to order the Electoral College to postpone its Dec. 15 proceedings until it rules on the Obama citizenship. He is using the 2000 case Bush vs. Gore case as precedent, arguing that it is of such compelling national interest that it should be given priority over other cases on the courts docket.
The same conditions apply here, Donofrio said in his letter to the court, as the clock is ticking down to Dec. 15, the day for the Electoral College to meet.
Audrey Singer, a senior fellow at Washingtons Brookings Institution, who is an expert on immigration, said that the Donofrio matter is going nowhere.
There is no way that anyone can argue about whether Barack Obama is a citizen, Singer said. In this country, we have a system known as jus soli or birthright by citizenship. You are a citizen by being born on American soil and he (Obama) was born in Hawaii.
Singer said that Donofrios argument that Obamas father was a Kenyan national does not matter because citizenship is not based on parentage, but on where someone was born.
This is the issue that some people have with illegal aliens in our country, she said. Children of illegal aliens, if they are born in the United States, are U.S. citizens. That is in the U.S. Constitution.
It's tempting to think that, but I think that Justice Thomas is looking at the larger implications first and foremost.
But, wouldn't it be deliciously ironic if Justice Thomas is directly responsible for throwing Obummer back on the street where he belongs?
I'll bet the irony of this isn't being lost on Barry at this very moment.
[twitch] - [twitch] - [twitch]...
Damn, you're good!
But it CAN be changed through ammendment.
I like the way you think!!!
You're correct about the automatic granting of US citizenship, but that's not what this case is about. It's about Natural Born Citizenship
There is a great deal of difference. Only a Natural Born Citizen can become President. For that, you have to be born on US soil, to two US parents.
So yes, the case IS going somewhere. Justice Thomas would not have taken it otherwise.
Where did you get your definition of Natural Born Citizen?
I found this at http://grou.ps/zapem that’s been covering the Donofrio v. Wells case from NJ that has now made it to the United States Supreme Court. They will decide on 12/5 if they intend to hear the case against McCain, Obama and Calero as being ineligible for the POTUS per the US Constitution.
Apparently they’re having a vigil at the courthouse that on friday. I doubt it will be on the news though. None of this has been. Well, the Star Ledger did want an interview with Donofrio. I haven’t heard anything about that yet. Will check. Here’s the link for the vigil.
http://www.freedommarch.org/Volunteer.html#SCOTUS
Pass it on.
Don't cherry pick the language of the Constitution.
The children of illegal aliens are most certainly NOT "subject to the jurisdiction thereof", and are NOT US citizens by circumstance of birth on American soil.
Little correction here, to my statement above.
US citizenship it's not actually "automatic", but it is true that it is being given to children born of illegal aliens. This is entirely due to mis-interpretation of the 14th Amendment.
For the gazillionth time, ‘natural born’ is defined as ‘having a status or condition from birth’ and nowhere in US Law or the Constitution is it redefined. It doesn’t matter if Obama had or has citizenships in a hundred other countries, so long as he had US citizenship at birth. While multi citizenship might be undesirable it is not a Constitutional disqualifier. There is no ‘citizen at birth but not natural born’ class of citizen because ‘citizen at birth’ or ‘having citizenship at birth’ is the same as ‘natural born citizen’. The term ‘natural born’ came into the language 200 years before the COTUS was written. If another definition had been created by the time the COTUS was written or even shortly thereafter, you can be certain it would have made it into the dictionary by now, another 200 years down the road.
Sorry that I can't cite the exact source, but one of our legal eagles posted data about this definition, with supporting US historical references today sometime. It was on one of the bc threads.
Audrey Singer has to be the dumbest rock in the pile.
No one is arguing that Obama may or may not be a “citizen”. Donofrio is saying that McCain, Obama and Calero are ALL not “natural born citizens”.
Big difference there ya idiot intellectual!
That is fact and will probably disqualify McCain too, who was born in Panama.
By the way, ladies and gentlemen, ABC twisted this story too, copying only parts from what the OP posted.
Have at it, you can comment on this one. It wasn’t written by MSNBC where they only take comments they like: http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=6839c2d7-0ecc-4319-b732-ebef749a71b1
I wonder how many other candidates might have campaigned for the office had merely citizenship been the minimal requirement. The present Governor of California comes to mind.
I don’t if you’ve seen this article, but this is proof that Obama and McCain KNEW, back in April, they weren’t natural born citizens. Check this one out. They passed a Senate resolution on it! A non-binding one, but you can see where they were heading to go, definitely:
http://grou.ps/zapem/wiki/23460
I encourage you to keep bringing this interpretation of Natural Born citizenship up to the group. I'm not educated sufficiently on the historical definitions of the phrase, or the exact references to it by The Founders, but there are some folks on the board who are very well versed in this who might have a lively conversation with you about it.
From what I've been able to gather in my readings on the subject, the Framers of the Constitution wanted to ensure that the office of President was closed to any who did not have a complete and "natural" affinity and loyalty to this country, and no other, either through location of birth, or through parentage. It was considered that only a person born on US soil, to two American parents would have a natural, un-divided loyalty to America.
So goes the theory behind the construction of that phrasing.
Unless you are not 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof' which applies to only four or so categories of people:
Schwarzenegger is a naturalized citizen.
You are either a natural born citizen, naturalized citizen, or not a citizen at all.
Neither McCain nor Obama have gone through the naturalization process. Thus, if they are not natural born citizens, they are in fact ILLEGAL ALIENS.
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