Posted on 12/03/2008 8:14:35 AM PST by Scythian
This birth certificate issue has been going on for some time now and for those hoping for some kind of dramatic outcome you are in for another big disappointment.
First, there is always the chance that there is a valid birth certificate proving Obama to be a US citizen.
Second, enough time has passed such that the Obama cult has manufactured and installed a phony certificate that will re-route us back up to option 1 above, he will have a valid certificate. Who do you think works in these kinds of government offices? They're all democrats.
Third, no court is going to force Obama to prove himself to be a citizen, the burden is on those making the accusation that he is not a citizen. A criminal doesn't have to prove he didn't commit a crime, the state has to prove that he did.
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Flame on, and sorry for the Vanity, but this is driving me nutz, this issue gets my hopes up but then common sense dashes my hope on the rocks, and this now is a daily occurrence. You are going to find a valid certificate at the end of this road if you are lucky enough to get a judge to demand it, and that is very unlikely, whether the certificate be real or phony it won't matter, and will never be able to proven either way.
That is a further issue: No Vault copy showing place of birth, time of birth, etc...
Would this really end if he did? We would just move on to say it is a fake.
It could be that we are being set up. Years from now, he will still use the charge that “My opponents are willing to try any crazy scheme to oppose me, like they did years ago when they tried that ridiculous Birth Certificate thing”...
Ha!! In the mean time... in spite of the fact about his not meeting even the most cursory qualifiers for President, this guy has proved what Americans have ALWAYS said.... Anyone can become president of the US. (It just better never be a female who is a political conservative and also a practicing Christian)
When we always said, Anyone can be President, we did not mean an unqualified, inexperienced, race baiting, Anti-American, radical populist, with dicey, direct and long-standing associations to some of the most demonstrably treasonous and certifiably lunatic extremists, criminals and snake oil purveyors on earth . Oh well. I guess thats anyone!
I bet he displayed the fake COLB and the long form was never requested.
The real purpose is to separate the lemming taxpayers
from those receiving bailouts (laden with their own
brown bags for the corrupt Congresscritters).
This isn't a criminal issue. Did you show your birth certificate (or other wise prove your age) to get a driver's license? Have you tried to get a library card lately?
bttt
Obama/Dunham marriage license Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license Not released
Soetoro adoption records Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application Not Released
Punahou School records Not released
Selective Service Registration Released - Proven Counterfeit
Occidental College records Not released
Passport (Pakistan) Not released
Columbia College records Not released
Columbia thesis Not released
Harvard College records Not released
Harvard Law Review articles None (maybe 1, Not Signed)
Baptism certificate None
Medical records Not released
Illinois State Senate records None (Locked up to prohibit public view
Illinois State Senate schedule Lost (All other Illinois state senators records are intact)
Law practice client list Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles None
Line 3 (Citizenship) Indonesia ..... Line 4 (Religion) Islam
If there is a legitimate birth certificate, osama hussein needs to prove his legality & legitimacy to inherit the CEO’s job. Since there are 17 lawsuits in 12 states and 2 justices have agreed to hear 2 plus osama has hired 3 law firms to represent him spells something corrupt floating in the air.
Maybe I should have replaced ‘gives’ with ‘recognizes’. It recognized that instead of being a ‘naturalized citizen’, he was a ‘natural born citizen’. The Constitution doesn’t forbid changing legal definitions or simple standards. Ex Post Facto refers to criminal law, making something a crime that wasn’t and retroactively enforcing it. Calder v. Bull case of 1798, Justice Chase established four categories of unconstitutional ex post facto laws, applying it solely to criminal cases, not civil cases.
In NJ the SOS is suppose to verify and did not which is why the lawsuit was started in that state.
LOL!
As I understand it, she never certified that he was eligible, thus no document was ever requested. Basically she did not do her job, which is why I believe this case has a solid chance of being heard.
Do the States require a Birth Certificate for filing in the first place or will they accept any Federally recognized document stating you are a citizen such as a passport, driver’s license, etc?
My thoughts exactly. Remember the Marxist playbook which O used so effectively ....ridicule your opponent(s).
They envisioned a curious Media & press...they could not anticipate the Press copitulating to the Left.
That is the main root of the problem...the “4th Branch of Govt” a free press shouldve brought this issue and a 100 others on Obama to bear before the 2nd primary race.
I bet he displayed the fake COLB and the long form was never requested.
As I understand it, she never certified that he was eligible, thus no document was ever requested. Basically she did not do her job, which is why I believe this case has a solid chance of being heard.
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Malfeasance!!!!
Referring back to the Constitution, there is no such legalistic distinction. You're presuming that these categories exist to the exclusion of any other.
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