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The question that cries out for an answer (Certifigate)
The Ellis County Press ^ | December 1st, 2008 | Duff Hale

Posted on 12/01/2008 9:42:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

I’m reasonably sure most people are completely unaware of what I’m about to discuss, but that’s not unusual considering most everyone depends on the mainstream media for their news.

You’ve not heard anything about this on NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNBC or CNN.

It’s not surprising they’ve been completely silent.

There is a question that deserves an answer, cries out for an answer even.

That question?

Is Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. constitutionally qualified to become the next president of the United States?

The Constitution clearly states in Article II, Section 1 that "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President …"

In discussing the proposed constitution in the Federalist Papers, the case was made that by requiring a natural born citizen as president there should be loyalties only to this country, especially when it comes to the conduct of foreign affairs and the negotiation of treaties.

It was placed in there to protect the integrity of our republic and assure there would be no divided loyalties between the United States and any other nation from which the president might have come.

If you look at the histories of many European nations you will find their kings and queens often came from royalty of other nations via marriages arranged to cement military and political alliances, and by so doing they often wound up sacrificing their national heritage.

Few today realize the British King, George VI, was actually one of the German Hapsburgs, so while Britain was at war with Germany during World War II there was actually a German sitting on the throne.

During that period, the Bank of England made secret loans to Nazi Germany.

Our president must have loyalties only to this nation. He should not hesitate to wear a flag lapel pin, nor should he remove the American flag from his campaign plane.

Now that brings us to the question of the moment. Is Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. qualified, constitutionally, to be president?

Attorney Philip J. Berg doesn’t think so and filed suit in a U.S. District Court in Pennsylvania (Case #08-cv04083) questioning his status not only as a natural born citizen but his status as a naturalized citizen.

Berg is a Democrat, a Hillary supporter and a former Pennsylvania Assistant Attorney General.

The Pennsylvania court ruled in favor of Obama stating Berg did not have standing to file suit, but attorney Berg has filed a Writ of Certiorari in the U.S. Supreme Court requiring Obama disclose his birth certificate and other similar documents.

Let’s look at some of the history making up this lawsuit.

The court was provided a copy of a Certificate of Live Birth recording the birth of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. at the Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombassa, Kenya, at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961.

In an affidavit to the court, Berg provided a transcript of a telephone call from Obama’s Kenyan grandmother claiming that Barack Obama, Jr. was born in Mombassa and that she, Obama’s half-brother and half-sister witnessed his birth.

"I was in the delivery room in Kenya, when he was born Aug. 4, 1961," so said Obama’s paternal grandmother.

Further complicating Obama’s situation is the fact that Obama’s mother re-married to an Indonesian Muslim who, under Indonesian law as his custodial parent, surrendered Barack Obama, Jr.’s U.S. citizenship for Indonesian citizenship since that was the only way he could be enrolled in an Indonesian school.

A copy of that school application indicates Obama’s citizenship as Indonesian and his religion as Muslim.

When he returned to Hawaii at around age 12, it does not appear that Obama, his mother, or his maternal grandparents applied for reinstatement of his citizenship, or for an application for naturalization.

No evidence can be found that he signed a Certificate of Oath of Allegiance to the United States which is required by federal law.

So, Berg’s lawsuit before the Supreme Court questions not only President-elect Obama’s status as a natural born citizen, but also raises the question as to whether or not he is a United States citizen under any circumstances.

If he is merely a resident alien he cannot occupy his seat as a United States Senator, much less president.

Obama, using the power of his position has managed to evade the question.

He has refused to provide any evidence to put this question to rest and now intends to use the power of the presidency to bury the question for all time.

Citizens of this republic deserve an answer to the question that cries out for an answer.

Once and for all.

He needs to provide whatever evidence is necessary to assure Americans his birth and citizenship status before assuming the office of president.

If he has nothing to hide, provide a valid birth certificate and whatever documents are necessary to confirm his citizenship.

He owes the nation this much.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: barackobama; bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; kenya; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; presidentelectobama; sfbc
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Finally making it to the small newspapers and radio stations, not just the bloggers. Can the Team Obama and the big time presstitutes keep this under wraps until January 20th?
1 posted on 12/01/2008 9:42:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>>Can the Team Obama and the big time presstitutes keep this under wraps until January 20th?

We find out friday.


2 posted on 12/01/2008 9:44:18 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

believe it or not,

it was mentioned on cbs’ website yesterday.


3 posted on 12/01/2008 9:45:25 PM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The clock is ticking..........


4 posted on 12/01/2008 9:47:30 PM PST by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The court was provided a copy of a Certificate of Live Birth recording the birth of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. at the Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombassa, Kenya, at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961.

Is this true? If so it seems like there should be a copy somewhere?

5 posted on 12/01/2008 9:47:53 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the parlance of the bailouts, Obama’s presidency is too big to de-certify.


6 posted on 12/01/2008 9:48:40 PM PST by rvoitier
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Finally. Small town America is starting to smell the rotting fish. If the “president-elect” doesn't honor the terms of the Constitution, why should we? Why should we pay Federal income taxes if the constitution doesn't mean what it says? What keeps us from sliding into chaos as our nation crumbles?

This is scary stuff and the MSM is sitting on it because they want the Obama in office.

7 posted on 12/01/2008 9:49:26 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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Cabbage Patch
8 posted on 12/01/2008 9:51:14 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: All

He’s not the president YET.

No birth certificate. No peace.

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Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”

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9 posted on 12/01/2008 9:54:59 PM PST by patriot08
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Democrat controlled Congress tried to convey to Obama a status which requires an amendment to the Constitution, not a vote from Congress. For that reason, I certainly expect the SCOTUS to take a deeper look at this case.

I suspect that Obama has by default denied being a citizen of the United States on occasion, to afford himself affirmative action benefits regarding college tuition, overcoming travel restrictions, etc. That's why his entire college and schooling records are hideden from the public. The man is a fraud and he knows it and he is depending on running out the clock with the ace up his sleeve that riots and violence will occur if he is not afforded the affirmative action of setting the Constitutional requirements aside for his benefit.

10 posted on 12/01/2008 9:56:49 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: ken21

I was unaware of any CBS exposure, but that’d be great!

I don’t believe the following comment contained in the post is true, is it ?

The court was provided a copy of a Certificate of Live Birth recording the birth of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. at the Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombassa, Kenya, at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961.

I don’t think anyone has seen a Kenyan birth cert and I don’t think Berg has indicated having a copy in his possession. Although I believe Jerome Corsi was told that one exists during his Kenyan visit this year, but he was ousted prior to being able to verify that.


11 posted on 12/01/2008 9:58:46 PM PST by rocco55
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The court was provided a copy of a Certificate of Live Birth recording the birth of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. at the Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombassa, Kenya, at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961.

First I've seen of this. Frankly, I think the author is in error. Those of us who are watching this issue closely would have certainly heard about this bc, if it exists (as anything more than a rumor).

I may just have to email this writer and ask him where he got this data.

12 posted on 12/01/2008 10:00:22 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rvoitier
In the parlance of the bailouts, Obama’s presidency is too big to de-certify.

Yes, apparently so.

13 posted on 12/01/2008 10:02:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Can the Team Obama and the big time presstitutes keep this under wraps until January 20th?

Even if he does it still won't go away. Every court battle that involves a law signed by Obama will probably generate a challenge to the law.

14 posted on 12/01/2008 10:05:23 PM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You’ve not heard anything about this on NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNBC or CNN.

~~Or Fox?!


15 posted on 12/01/2008 10:09:57 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: missnry

LOL!


16 posted on 12/01/2008 10:22:09 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Can Philip Berg, or anyone, get a copy of the Kenyan birth certificate? We'd all be interested to see that here!
17 posted on 12/01/2008 10:25:57 PM PST by IIntense (o)
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To: IIntense
The Pennsylvania court which denied Berg standing got a copy of the Kenya BC is what the author asserted:

"The court was provided a copy of a Certificate of Live Birth recording the birth of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. at the Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombassa, Kenya, at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961." If that were so, you would think Phil Berg would have put that information on his website. He hasn't.

18 posted on 12/01/2008 10:32:51 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: rvoitier

It is absolutely amazing that Obama himself does not want to come clean on the subject of his COLB. Never mind that the totally corrupt MSM wants to hide the truth from the American people, but that they are joined by all politicians by their silence is disgusting.

Regardless of the outcome, this whole sordid affair should be brought up in the next election year.


19 posted on 12/01/2008 10:34:03 PM PST by 353FMG (The sky is not falling, yet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You’ve not heard anything about this on NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNBC or CNN.

Or FOX News

20 posted on 12/01/2008 10:36:57 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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