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Top Cop: Wal-Mart May Be To Blame For Worker Death [wasn't trained for security work.....]
WCBSTV ^

Posted on 12/01/2008 3:04:12 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Top Cop: Wal-Mart May Be To Blame For Worker Death Nassau Detective: Investigation Focusing On Individuals In Crowd And Badly Thought Out Security Protocols ME Confirms: 34-Year-Old Man Died Of Asphyxiation Reporting Lou Young MINEOLA (CBS) ― A top Nassau County police official called it a recipe for disaster.

Wal-Mart advertised the sale, announced supplies were limited and then -- he says -- did little to control the surge of people as they funneled through a single door.

Cops also said. everyone who got into the Valley Stream Wal-Mart when it opened on Friday morning stepped over, around or on Jdimytai Damour.

The medical examiner lists the cause of death to the temp employee as asphyxiation as the result of trampling. In other words, the crowd killed him. But is the crowd primarily responsible? Or does the store bear the brunt of the responsibility?

Nassau County Det. Lt. Michael Fleming said it looks like Wal-Mart made a fatal error here.

"It is clear at this juncture with the investigation still going that in my assessment and our assessment there were not adequate protocols in place," Fleming said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wcbstv.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blame; consumerism; greed; misplacedblame; retail; walmart; workplace
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further proof we've lost our minds as a society...dies from asphyxiation and it's Wall Mart's fault...
1 posted on 12/01/2008 3:04:12 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
The police said their investigation will attempt to identify individuals in the crowd who might have acted recklessly, as well as the store's own security protocols. The first set of charges will be tougher to bring – CBS 2 HD was told -- but the second set, involving Wal-Mart, are part of the business' responsibility for an event like this.

Translation: The first set of people obviously are short on cash since they are at this ridiculous sale in the first place. The second set has big bucks that the leftists like to suck dry, so we don't care whose guilty as long as someone coughs up some dough.

2 posted on 12/01/2008 3:07:43 PM PST by Elvina (BHO is double plus ungood.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Regardless of employee training, the ‘bargain entitlement’ mentality of the crowd killed the man. Given every ounce of training save for a riot shotgun, it is likely this man would have been trampled. Mob mentality, mob voting, mob ideology are the mindset of this group of sub humans.


4 posted on 12/01/2008 3:08:49 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Sub-Driver

This is BS.

I apologize for the inferred slur on police here, but does anyone think that since this is in NY, this is laying the groundwork for more cops to be assigned details to stand outside WalMart and other stores to the tune of $80 per hour?

What happened down there was inhuman and criminal, and it had nothing to do with an undertrained security guard and a mob of unruly, chanting people who stomped a FELLOW HUMAN BEING TO DEATH IN ORDER TO BUY AN XBOX FOR A CHEAPER PRICE.

This just BURNS MY ASS.


5 posted on 12/01/2008 3:09:30 PM PST by rlmorel ("A barrel of monkeys is not fun. In fact, a barrel of monkeys can be quite terrifying!")
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To: Sub-Driver

“there were not adequate protocols in place”

Conertina wire? Electric cattle prods? Machine gun nests?

I would like him to elaborate on what exactly would constitute adequate protocols for mob control.


6 posted on 12/01/2008 3:11:05 PM PST by ChicagahAl (So your bumper sticker says: "Don't blame me, I didn't vote!"? Duh!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Walmart will be sued...successfully...by this guy's family.A store like that knows that special measures are required to avoid this kind of thing.
7 posted on 12/01/2008 3:11:09 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: Sub-Driver

this was the only WalMart in America where a sale was advertised but only limited quantities were on hand?


8 posted on 12/01/2008 3:11:13 PM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Nassau County Det. Lt. Michael Fleming said it looks like Wal-Mart made a fatal error here.

Walmart's fatal error was not realizing that humanity and civility are grossly lacking in America today. I don't think they can be prosecuted for expecting people to act like human beings and not animals.

9 posted on 12/01/2008 3:11:29 PM PST by Elvina (BHO is double plus ungood.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Walmart was clearly negligent and should pay and take measures to never let it happen again. From what I have heard this has happened before at Walmart and they should have known better. What idiots!

However, those identified in the crowd by the camera who pushed the guy down, and those who clearly stepped on him, should be arrested and also held responsible. Stupidity on the part of walmart, brutality on the part of the crowd.


10 posted on 12/01/2008 3:11:58 PM PST by HerrBlucher (We will "Barry" you -- Nikita Kruschev)
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To: Sub-Driver

People are lunatics. That’s what killed this poor fellow.


11 posted on 12/01/2008 3:12:13 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: Sprite518

I read earlier the deceased family has hired a lawyer and is going after Wall Mart..........TA DA!


12 posted on 12/01/2008 3:12:15 PM PST by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: rlmorel
"...and it had nothing to do with an undertrained security guard and everything to do with a mob of unruly, chanting people who stomped a FELLOW HUMAN BEING TO DEATH...

I left out a key sequence of words there. I should proofread when I am pissed.

13 posted on 12/01/2008 3:12:15 PM PST by rlmorel ("A barrel of monkeys is not fun. In fact, a barrel of monkeys can be quite terrifying!")
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To: Sub-Driver

Of course it is the fault of Wal-Mart - they have a big sale, huge crowd shows up, and THEY OPEN ONE DOOR!!

What a bunch of stupid people work in management at that place. Crowd control is not rocket science.

When Nordstrom holds its big after Thanksgiving Day sale, there are two clerks at every entrance opening the doors - ALL THE DOORS.


15 posted on 12/01/2008 3:12:56 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
“there were not adequate protocols in place”

I wonder if this man ever considered a little police presence for crowd control at the event?

16 posted on 12/01/2008 3:13:47 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: ChicagahAl
I would like him to elaborate on what exactly would constitute adequate protocols for mob control.

In your search for an answer perhaps you'd google "Hillsborough disaster" for starters.It's kinda the gold standard for what to do...and what not to do...when anticipating "spirited" crowds.

17 posted on 12/01/2008 3:14:44 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
Mob mentality, mob voting, mob ideology are the mindset of this group of sub humans.

You just described why Obama won the election. Republicans are trying to read too much into the loss.

18 posted on 12/01/2008 3:15:56 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: rlmorel

But, but...people a basically good you know. /s


19 posted on 12/01/2008 3:16:38 PM PST by WVNan
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To: WVNan

a=are clumsy fingers.


20 posted on 12/01/2008 3:17:52 PM PST by WVNan
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