Posted on 12/01/2008 2:43:49 PM PST by fanfan
““So you’re blaming the greatest Canadian Conservative in quite literally decades for failure when the current situation”
In short, yes. And calling him the “greatest Canadian Conservative” in decades is to do a disservice to the real Progressive Conservatives who made the error of putting him in place and to dishonour their good names.
“My apologies if I’ve mischaracterised your position. In this day and age, finding someone who seems quite so thoughtless and heartless is unusual and my reaction was visceral.”
You only need look in your mirror to recognise just how close such people are
“The proper course is for the opposition to call for a no confidence votee.”
Which they will provided Harper doesn’t chicken-out and prorogue Parliament until January. He screwed up big time and has nobody to blame save himself and his be-sweatered ego
““Our Conservatives are by-and-large to the left of the Democrats”
Not accurate.”
Care to correct me then? That’s been the conventional wisdom for a few generations give or tak
Now you're taking umbrage at a critical (yet honest) depiction of the worst political leader in the history of Canada ? I really think you're out of place here. This isn't a liberal website, which is clearly more in line with your views.
"Now the grass-root funded Conservatives want to strangle their opposition who played by the rules."
"Oh, and by the way? The Conservatives want to sit on their hands and let the economy go in the dumper. That’s really a proactive response to the economic times we’re in."
As I said, I don't think this website is in line with your views.
Maybe the old PCs, maybe.
I’m not sure your aware are how awful our democraps are. Harper’s Tories are certainly well the the right of the demrat median.
I think it’s readily apparent to all in this thread that you are a troll.
May I ask, how would you describe your political beliefs?
Take a look and these videos. No wonder the Liberal Party got their ass kicked a few weeks ago. The leader of the French-only party in Quebec speaks BETTER English than the leader of “nationwide” Liberal Party! Their chosen one is complete inept. If guy becomes prime minister when 80% of Canadians opposed him, he's going to crash and burn big time.
Gilles Duceppe, Bloc Québécois Separatist Leader (Can articulate in English very well)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lknU8ba0MIg
Stephane Dion, Liberal Party Leader (incoherant french ramblings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCM41v-Rs8g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrliDQs1Jps
Jack Layton, NDP leader (could pass for an American Marxist Kucinich type quite easily)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55kUfO02am8&feature=related
“You worked out west....LOL ....that makes you an eastern not a Western Canadian.”
I guess you must’ve missed the sentence where I said my family’s from out west. I guess I have to content myself with not being pure laine Albertan like yourself. Quite the loss it seems.
As for the rest of your screed, it contrasts rather poorly with my experience of westerners. However, enjoy your ivory tower FWIW.
This one of Steppie takes the cake...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8zxWe8LRcg&feature=related
Pay close attention, the money shot is about :47 seconds in.
Well, in a month or so after this pact, ( Harper will let the Nation have a real good look at these leftist prigs,prodding them to no end into whirling dervish hysterics, no place for them to hide), Harper will call an election, and guess what?
Can you say the words " Majority Government" slowly and clearly!
Brilliant!
GO HARPER, GO!!!!
” While I don’t profess Einstein-level knowledge of Canadian politics, I dare say I probably know more than the average American does about politics south of the border”
Which would be of great interest were the conversation not about politics NORTH of the border. And your “Einstein-level knowledge” of Canadian politics is making GWB’s look positively Hawkingish by comparison.
” Now, all I merely pointed out to you was the inherent hypocrisy of a party with that absurd title...”
“What’s in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.” That phrase ring a bell? Names notwithstanding, perhaps you might actually enlighten yourself before going off half-cocked?
“last I checked, it was Kim Campbell that saw the party wiped out to the point they could caucus in a phone booth.”
Campbell just happened to catch the hand grenade that Mulroney tossed. Smart lady. But then I don’t suppose you’re familiar with her in reality as opposed to ideology.
“So, FR is a “Desert Island” in your estimation?”
No. Actually in my experience, FR on the main is more balanced and nuanced than your posting style would indicate. I don’t tar Freepers as a whole for the shortcomings of one individual.
“Well, can’t all have such big liberal hearts like yours.”
Well, perhaps a little exposure to real life may help mend you. One can only hope
I’m sorry, I just saw your second Dion link. The man quite literally is a bumbling moron. The Tories should blanket that clip on tv from coast to coast and ask, “Is this what you want to lead our country ?”
“Con wee stuart ovarre agin ?” (Almost as good as Perot’s “Can I finish ?”)
Now, now, your liberal ruts are showing.
“Ah, it’s no wonder our friend, Volunteer, is so miffed.”
Actually, were it not for the dealing of Peter Joseph Willcocks McKay, the Progressive Conservative party would presently be a factor to be contended with, much to the chagrin of Harper et al.
But what most people miss is that Les Quebecois are essentially conservative by nature, and libertarian by vote. They have to be to conserve their culture.
And the leftists throw their bones to that conservative mind. It won't last much longer. The national conservatives do indeed now understand the conservative nature of Quebec, and play to it far better than Dion and his " motely crew."
I really enjoy Quebec, I am ususally in Montreal once a month.
To tell the truth, I have rarely met a Quebecois I do not get along with, and appreciate very much their sense of humor.
Colees de Tabernac!
Your tour d’horizon of Progressive Conservative thought is laughable. Let me guess, ...red Tory, red Tory...you’re Joe Clark? ... David Orchard?
Svend Robinson?
Give it up, troll.
“Now you’re taking umbrage at a critical (yet honest) depiction of the worst political leader in the history of Canada?”
Since you’ve thus far had to Google everything to get yourself up to speed on what you think you’re talking about, you’ll excuse me if I take your political characterisations with something more than a grain of salt
“I really think you’re out of place here.”
Is that your way of saying you prefer to preach to the converted?
“As I said, I don’t think this website is in line with your views.”
Uh huh. I understand that you feel the need to repeat yourself. Does discussion make you uncomfortable?
“Harper’s Tories are certainly well the the right of the demrat median.”
Wouldn’t be my read on it. Certainly, that seems to fly in the face of general opinion.
“May I ask, how would you describe your political beliefs?”
Red Tory. Fiscally conservative, socially liberal. Just right and just left of centre.
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