Posted on 12/01/2008 11:50:53 AM PST by IbJensen
Since his election, Barack Obama has spent at least three Sunday mornings skipping church and working out in a gym, according to Politico.com.
Well, he could do worse. The president-elect could take Washington Post religion maven Sally Quinns advice and attend services at Washington National Cathedral. There, he would find so much lukewarm liberal hogwash that it might make him long for the conspiratorial but biblically spiced rants of his old Chicago pastor, Jeremiah Wright.
Quinn, co-moderator of the Newsweek/Post On Faith online column, wrote an op-ed on Nov. 22, A Church for the Obamas, calling the National Cathedral the perfect church for Barack and Michelle Obama to join.
Shes excited because the cathedral is replete with pluralism (read: moral relativism), according a place to all the worlds religions, from Hinduism to Islam and even atheism.
As Quinn puts it, the cathedral is at once deeply Christian and deeply interfaith. Theres something deep here, all right.
The National Cathedral, Quinn points out, is where the first female presiding bishop, Katherine Jefforts Schori, was inducted. A longtime practitioner of the faith of radical liberalism, Ms. Jefforts Schori is now busy presiding over the breakup of the Episcopal Church, as more and more Bible-based congregations are fleeing to the Anglicans.
Also on Quinns all-star list of cathedral inductions is New Hampshires Vickie Gene Robinson, the first openly homosexual Episcopal bishop. Robinson left his wife and kids behind for the gay life, which makes him the perfect finding oneself role model for whats left of the Episcopal Church.
Later, Quinn finds space in her op-ed to describe the pre-election Jeremiah Wright episode as hopelessly misunderstood by most Americans. No, most Americans understood Wright all too well, which is why the media kept him out of sight.
But why stay inside Christianity itself, even with infinitely flexible contours? On Nov. 12, the National Cathedral hosted Deepak Chopra, the Hindu self-help guru. Chopra wrote a searing indictment of politically active conservative Christians in his Nov. 1 On Faith column, Please Keep God Out of the Voting Booth. Accusing conservatives of seizing power, Chopra gave a cartoon version of their supposed agenda: God is against Roe v. Wade, God demands that our children pray in school; God condemns homosexuals to hell. It would have been more truthful simply to label themselves as the intolerance faction.
This is what passes for tolerance in the Posts weekly On Faith corner, which more accurately should be called Attacks on Faith. Only one faith comes in for regular attacks, though. Guess which one?
On Oct. 25, in Women Treated Badly in the Name of Religion, Susan K. Smith, senior pastor of Advent United Church of Christ in Columbus, Ohio, leveled both barrels against religion. Not the religion that denies women in some nations access to education or property rights and forces them under threat of beatings to wear black tents with only an eye slit. No, the real threat, she says, is the chauvinist Christian churches.
Religion has done a good job of teaching us that a man is the head of house and home and that any good Christian woman will take what her mate gives out and keep her mouth shut, Smith writes. Religion has made women feel guilty about sex a good woman just doesnt think about it (while the men do what they want)....Religion, as it has been taught, has made me wonder at times just who is this God anyway that he/she would allow, ordain, sanction that women presumably created by him/her as well, be treated so badly in the name of religion?
Sound like any sermon youve heard lately? Attention, men! Do what you want and mistreat your wives! Watch out, ladies! Theres a Promise Keeper lurking with a lead pipe!
How about another dose of On Faith? On Nov. 8, Chicago Theological Seminary Prof. Susan Brooks Thistlewaite gave a victory cry in Obamas Election a Step Toward Getting Back the Nations Soul. She concludes that since Obama won, America might be okay after all, even though gay Americans did not fare well Tuesday in ballot initiatives designed to deny them their civil rights.
Shes referring to the fact that voters in three more states, including 70 percent of African-American voters, who know a thing or two about civil rights, approved constitutional amendments protecting marriage Gods way as the union of a man and a woman.
In her novel Wise Blood, Flannery OConnor explored the absurdity and ultimate tragedy of having a church of Christ without Christ -- trappings and religiosity without the core belief in Jesus as The Way, The Truth and The Life.
Getting back to the National Cathedral, it should be said that it is magnificent, right up there with Europes finest. In addition to soaring heights and gargoyles, it sports a magnificent façade sculpted by the late Christian artist Frederick Hart. Its well worth a visit when the Brave New Church is not conducting its séances.
The dean of the National Cathedral, Sam Lloyd, says, We are a place that welcomes people of all faiths and no faith. Post toastie Quinn points out that this echoes what Barack Obama opined two years ago. Heres what he said:
Whatever we once were, were no longer just a Christian nation. At least not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation and a Buddhist nation and a Hindu nation and a nation of nonbelievers.
Im all for religious freedom and tolerance, but I dont think having a few Hindus makes us a Hindu nation any more than having some Wiccans around makes us a Wiccan nation. The latest Pew poll, by the way, shows that 78.4 percent of Americans identify as Christian.
Perhaps Quinn is right. The Obamas, who sat under the Marxist-inspired black liberation teachings of Rev. Wright for two decades, might feel at home at the National Cathedral.
If they dont, it wont be because its lacking in unorthodox theology.
That would be the 'church' chosen by satan and his disciples.
Honestly, going to the track is a greater spiritual experience than services in America’s leading Episcopalian cathedral where they’re probably reading Maya Angelou in place of The Gospels.
Hussein is a muslim. He attended a “Christian” church [that espoused Black Power theology] only for political purposes. Now that the election is over, he doesn’t need it anymore.
What does O do on Fridays?
Inquiring minds....
Obama doesn’t need a church anyway. He was never a Christian to begin with and he doesn’t need to play the part now that he’s been elected.
In fact, I fully expect to see “The Church of Obama” to begin sprouting up around the country. The media has been worshipping him for months, not to mention the millions of Americans that voted for him. When you walk through the door, you get a church-issued hammer and sickle, a nice freshly-pressed brown shirt, and best of all - your mortgage paid and gas tank filled.
You ain't never been Obama on a Saturday night.
I know Quinn is sometimes not the brightest, but it is amazing how this “great” journalist missed the fact that the congregation of the Washington National Cathedral is episcopalian.
I know, I know, pretty liberal, but, decidely not non-denominational.
Does Quinn realize that Barry will be exposed to decidedly Christian things like (gasp) the Holy Eucharist? And Christmas services? And a cross hanging at the front of the Cathedral?
And those items you list are perhaps the reasons he is unable to feel at home there. He’s going to miss his Black power teachings.
But Obambi is a Christian. His website said so.
He’ll fit right in with the godless D.C. crowd.
I understand the big draw there is the Temple Prostitutes Temple Priestesses female presstitutes cheering him on, and swooning over his sweat stained pits.
I’d like to take this moment to personally thank all the stupid bastards who put him in office.
That was a fascinating novel. A little grotesque at times, but fascinating.
I don't know how they get away with calling it a "church", nor how any of these 'ministers, reverends' or what ever they call themselves these days get ordained. Just who ordains them? I'm guessing the internet site where you pay your $20 or so after answering 15 questions, 10 of which are the students name, adress, phone number, age, sex, married, single, or divorced, occupation, and anual income.
Once that is complete, and your visa or paypal payment verified, you can download the file to print your legal in all 57 states "certificate of ordmainment".
These are Satans spawn, each and every one of them named in this article.
"Alas for you scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You who shut up the kingdom of heaven in men's faces, neither going in yourselves nor allowing others to go in who want to." (Mt.23:13-36).
They will face the ultimate judgment.
The times Christ has warned us about have arrived, and it's more important than ever to stick to what's written.
"The sheep that belong to me listen to my voice; I know them and they follow me. I give them eternal life." (Jn.10:27-28)
"After I have gone and prepared you a place, I shall return to take you with me..." (Jn.14:3).
"I know quite well that when I have gone, fierce wolves will invade you and will have no mercy on the flock. Even from your own ranks there will be men coming forward with a travesty of the truth on their lips to induce the disciples to follow them. So be on your guard..." (Acts 20:29-30).
"You will know them by their fruits"
"...to those who have been corrupted and lack faith, nothing can be pure -- the corruption is both in their minds and in their consciences. They claim to have knowledge of God but the things they do are nothing but a denial of him; they are outrageously rebellious and quite incapable of doing good." (Tit.1:15-16).
"Remember the maxim: 'Keep to what is written." (1 Cor.4:6).
A Hindu apologist for Islam is perhaps a better description
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