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Oh, Grow Up!
Commentary ^ | Nov. 29, '08 | J.G. Thayer

Posted on 11/30/2008 10:30:27 AM PST by T.L.Sink

Once again, a horrific atrocity has been committed by a group of determined Muslims willing and eager to die in the name of their faith. And, as usual, the Islamic groups have pulled out their standard boilerplate responses: Disclaimer #1: "These people don't represent True Islam." Disclaimer #2: "You must not blame all Muslims for the deeds of a few misguided" Disclaimer #3: "What they did was terrible, but they were provoked by the oppression and attacks on Muslims around the world, mostly by Israel and the West." Disclaimer #4: "We fear a terrible backlash from non-Muslims, and demand that you protect us from those would threaten us or say mean things or do things to insult us." It looks like we're somewhere between #2 and #3, but we can be quite certain that within a week or two they'll get around to the fourth point. It would make a fascinating study to compare two numbers: the number of people killed every year by Muslims for the offense of not being Muslim, and the number of Muslims killed every year by non-Muslims for the offense of being Muslim. And, maybe, a third number: the number of Muslims killed every year by other Muslims for the offense of not being good enough Muslims, or the wrong type of Muslim. My guess would be that the first number would be far, far greater than the second - and the third would dwarf the first two combined. Other religions have had their aggressive, expansionist phases but they grew out of that. Islam remains in its aggressive, conquering phase. It's been often noted that "Islam has bloody borders." One can only hope that it will grow and mature past it. And SOON - or that backlash they whine about might happen some day.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: india; mohammedanism; mumbai; radicalislam
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In a society dominated by multiculturalism and where the most heinous crimes against humanity are seen as merely relative phenomena, it's not PC to state the fact that Islam has inherent within the dynamics of its own theologies the propensity for fanaticism and instability. Perhaps the best brief illustration of that truth is the widely acclaimed essay by Theodore Dalrymple, "When Islam Breaks Down."
1 posted on 11/30/2008 10:30:28 AM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

When the heinous acts of their religious brethren are not vehmently condemned, their “hear, see, do nothing brothers” become as one with the terrorists. Don’t tell me Islam is a religion of peace. They have shown no such behavior.


2 posted on 11/30/2008 10:34:04 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: T.L.Sink

(WOW, my eyes were going blurry, this is easier to read)

Disclaimer #1: “These people don’t represent True Islam.”

Disclaimer #2: “You must not blame all Muslims for the deeds of a few misguided”

Disclaimer #3: “What they did was terrible, but they were provoked by the oppression and attacks on Muslims around the world, mostly by Israel and the West.”

Disclaimer #4: “We fear a terrible backlash from non-Muslims, and demand that you protect us from those would threaten us or say mean things or do things to insult us.”

It looks like we’re somewhere between #2 and #3, but we can be quite certain that within a week or two they’ll get around to the fourth point.

It would make a fascinating study to compare two numbers:
the number of people killed every year by Muslims for the offense of not being Muslim,

and the number of Muslims killed every year by non-Muslims for the offense of being Muslim.

And, maybe, a third number: the number of Muslims killed every year by other Muslims for the offense of not being good enough Muslims, or the wrong type of Muslim.

My guess would be that the first number would be far, far greater than the second - and the third would dwarf the first two combined.

Other religions have had their aggressive, expansionist phases but they grew out of that. Islam remains in its aggressive, conquering phase. It’s been often noted that “Islam has bloody borders.” One can only hope that it will grow and mature past it.

And SOON -
or that backlash they whine about might happen some day.


3 posted on 11/30/2008 10:35:52 AM PST by ThreePuttinDude (-)....Election 2008, the year of the Affirmative Action President....(-)
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To: T.L.Sink

I just read “While Europe Slept”. Chilling.


4 posted on 11/30/2008 10:36:54 AM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: T.L.Sink

A moderate muslim understands and sympathizes with the jihadists and is taught the same claptrap. The only difference is one took action and the other didn’t.


5 posted on 11/30/2008 10:39:34 AM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: Gaffer

Islam is a cult of Muslim Butchers.


6 posted on 11/30/2008 10:39:41 AM PST by abclily
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To: T.L.Sink

The Indian security forces appear to be incompetent cowards.


7 posted on 11/30/2008 10:40:05 AM PST by Eagle74 (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots)
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To: abclily

That’s a roger on that!


8 posted on 11/30/2008 10:41:45 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: T.L.Sink

Are you talking about the attacks in India? I’m not sure because I have read many reports about them and never once saw the word “Islam” or “Muslim” used in describing the attackers (who themselves are portrayed as homegrown “militants” or “terrorists”).


9 posted on 11/30/2008 10:44:45 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

#3 is the standard response by 95% of democrats including the chosen one. They usually replace the west with Bushitler/Cheny/Haliburton/Blackwater.


10 posted on 11/30/2008 10:54:23 AM PST by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: T.L.Sink

FTA “ one can only hope that islam will grow and mature past it soon”. Is the author of this article HIGH or just STUPID??? They have no intention of ever getting past the violent disposal of all non-muslims. That is part of their belief system. Those that are ignorant of this fact, are a danger to the rest of us. Our prez-elect imposter is one of THEM. He believes we can reason with muslim butchers of innocents. Until we hear millions of muslims publicly denounce the violence that many muslims commit againt humanity,,,,I will consider them all to be responsible for the continuing violence.


11 posted on 11/30/2008 11:16:15 AM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: T.L.Sink

You’ve forgotten #5! And it’s already been proclaimed on Eastern TV: “IT WAS THE JOOOOOS!”


12 posted on 11/30/2008 11:16:22 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: andy58-in-nh; SkyPilot

Here’s a great post by SkyPilot from yesterday that expands on your point:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2139878/posts?page=18#18


13 posted on 11/30/2008 11:16:26 AM PST by Deo volente (On January 20, 2009 America moves to DEFCON 2.)
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To: andy58-in-nh; Deo volente; SkyPilot

The Daily Mail (UK) was reporting that some were British Born, from the same area the 7/7 bombers came from.


14 posted on 11/30/2008 11:21:22 AM PST by fanfan
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To: Deo volente

You know if Christians used excuse no. 4, the oppression of christians in muslim states as an excuse to commit random horrors on muslims wherever they congregated, what would muslims think about that application of the golden rule?
But no reporter ever thinks to ask these muslim representatives such prickly questions.


15 posted on 11/30/2008 11:21:53 AM PST by eaglewingz08 (Koolaid Drinkers Need Not Apply)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

“Mature past it”? How many thousands of years does it take to get to that point? I’m getting old and most likely don’t have a life time to wait for them to reform. I would like to believe that I and my grandchildren don’t have to worry about them. Nor should they have to. If they want to live the kind of life they do, let them stay in the middle east.


16 posted on 11/30/2008 11:37:54 AM PST by RC2 (Where is Obama's Birth Certifacte?)
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To: T.L.Sink

cair already pulled out #4 while the blood was still flowing.


17 posted on 11/30/2008 11:38:02 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: Gaffer

Each time a travesty like this occurs one waits to hear strong statements of condemnation by ALL muslims.
Those condemnations never arrive.
I believe ALL muslims secretly cheer these fanatics on in their hearts.
Islam is garbage. Mooselimbs are worse than garbage.
Hold your breath, this kind of crap is soon coming to the U.S.A., how are you going to feel about islam then?


18 posted on 11/30/2008 11:39:38 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: T.L.Sink

I’ll stop blaming Muslims when Muslims are on the front lines doing something about what their religion has given birth to.

Until then I’m going to blame them.


19 posted on 11/30/2008 11:41:06 AM PST by DB
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To: T.L.Sink

How many thousands of years old is Islam??
Grow up?? We don’t need it to ‘mature’ we need it to VANISH
from mankind!
Now how to eradicate a toxic belief system?
C R U S A D E

In your town and mine- in your neighborhood and mine.

Everywhere- and NOW!

Nothing less will end this evil.


20 posted on 11/30/2008 11:45:53 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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