Posted on 11/29/2008 5:47:30 AM PST by IbJensen
The Christian faith is the only religion that cannot be manipulated in favor of one worldism or universalism sometimes called the New World Order. This is precisely why the world system and its political leaders hate, despise and persecute Christianity.
I hasten to explain that all the phony Christian fronts, televangelists and world evangelists are not Christians, but very much a part of the worldly system of antichrist.
All religions are collectivist religions except Christianity, which is an individual and individualist faith. Governments want and must have collectivism under some name whether it be democracy or communism.
Collectivism is a certain means of social, economic and religious control.
Politicians regularly espouse individualism, human liberty and democracy at the same time. Impossible! Individualism and human liberty are opposite to democracy and any other form of collectivism.
The collectivist mentality or the mass collective mind is the spirit of the New World Order. The collectivist man cannot oppose tyranny because he is himself tyranny. He is the reality of the supreme welfare state in its conspiracy of the ages to manipulate humanity against itself.
Collectivism is the foundation of the New World Order. It is supreme and total deception. It is completion of the tower of Babel. It is the conclusion and finished man without the spirit of Christ.
The collectivist mentality lures mankind into guidance from “higher authorities” (government). The crowd wants prepackaged truth and human freedom from government authority instead of using their own consciousness for making decisions and determining their own actions.
Hence, they are easily deceived and manipulated under some altruistic nonsense. Collective man wants the external authority of government instead of the spirit and mind of Christ. The animal farm is that world arena wherein man collectively surrenders himself, his personal being, his ego to collective and obedient faith in government authority.
It’s all very simple. A crowd can be manipulated into an altered state of consciousness (Hitler’s torchlight parades) finally evolving into a growing attitude of docility, whereas an individualistic person cannot be manipulated so easily. The state always considers that a self-sufficient and independent thinker is a threat to collectivism and its deception of the masses.
Thus, the Christian takes on the being and Spirit of Christ. His total allegiance is to The Living God. He will not sacrifice himself for “the common good” or “higher causes.” He cannot be manipulated by the State.
The welfare state must absolutely keep the people from the individualistic tendency of thinking for themselves.
Government parasites extract their wealth, power and pomp from mass deception based upon altruistic sacrifices of the workers and producers of wealth. Their greatest fear is that this will be revealed.
Human liberty is of God, not a privilege of the state. Let’s put on the whole Armor of God!
If I'm going shopping for you, would you like me get you some fresh prunes or a box of bran flakes?
I’ve seen enough flakes with what you’ve posted..
Saddam Hussein was OK by you?
I suppose that the "War between the States" was a bad idea as well according to that sort of reasoning.
It is OK with me if you think so, but that is where that sort of reasoning ultimately must bring you.
It is pacifism.
If we follow the Bush Doctrine, we should be pre-emptively striking numerous other countries as well.
Firstly, You've never been a conservative.
Only liberals refer to the doctrine of preemptive war as "The Bush Doctrine." The Bush Doctrine is, as Charles Krauthammer will tell you, something else entirely.
The Bush Doctrine entails the spread of Democracy around the world. Learn it, live it, love it.
As far as preemption is concerned, an invasion of Nazi Germany to liberate Jews prior to Hitler's declaration of war on the United States would have been entirely appropriate within every Christian construct imaginable.
Saddam had already gassed Kurds and was firing on U.S. planes enforcing the No-Fly-Zone. Your ignorance is sky-high.
I’m not a pacifist. I strongly believe in the second amendment. I don’t happen to shoot, although the males in my family most certainly do. My views on just war are closer to the Catholic Church, although I’m not a Catholic.
How do you feel about Ahmadinejad having nukes?
Are you going to drag out every hackneyed liberal stupidity you've ever heard right here on this thread?
It isn't too bad we supported him earlier. Iran was the greater threat to the U.S. at the time of the Iran-Iraq war, and at the time Saddam was the only political figure within the Arab world with the potential power to stem the tide of radical Shiite Islamic fundamentalism flourishing under the Ayatollah Khomeini.
Liberals are a hard-headed, moronic lot. You need to stop pretending you have common cause with conservatism of any stripe. You do not.
Not real excited about that. :(
I'm still against pre-emptive war. As a Chrisitian, I don't see how one could ever be for pre-emptive war. Take Israel. I'm a supporter of Israel, and believe they live quite precariously stuck there in the Middle East. I realize they have many enemies who believe they don't even have a right to exist. However, if they had the capability to wipeout their enemies - just strike them pre-emptively and do away with them - I would consider that a great evil. Of course, I believe that they have every right to defend themselves quite vigorously. I'm definitely not a pacifist.
Furthermore, preemption isn't necessarily evil, much less unChristian, as has been addressed in my earlier post.
If you'd like to go on the record as stating you're as accurate as Wiki, well...your standards for accuracy are noted.
I’m a Christian FIRST, a conservative second, and “was” a republican, third. There are many aspects in both parties that are at odds with christianity, imo. Too many people here are attempting to serve two masters, which is why their religion is too influenced by their politics, and that is very sad.
However, you are saying that we should bomb a country because of things that Saddam had already done. Because he killed numerous people in the past, we should bomb numerous people, now, to protect them. However, by the time we bombed Iraq, the world was watching Saddam closely, and he would not have been gassing any more Kurds. There is the difference. The world is a vastly different place, now. There's not much that Saddam could have done without our notice.
If you're truly a Christian first, get off your high horse, stop judging peoples' mindsets and motives, and quit spewing every socialist talking point ever dreamed up by the likes of Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann, Rosie O'Donnell, The View girls and Michael Moore.
Your "We went to Iraq for oil" horseshit is deplorably disingenuous. It's a lie. To lie about The President Of The United States...to smear him with that kind of cheap idiocy...is as unChristian a thing as I can imagine.
At best you're a hypocrite.
With the arrival of international Islamic terrorism and possible access to nuclear weapons, the world faces a whole new reality.
Used to be that waiting until you were attacked involved little incremental risk (vs acting pre-emptively). Nations could afford to wait until provoked.
Now, the equation has changed. Instead of artillery shells falling on open fields and concrete battlements, the initial "provocation" may well be a mushroom cloud in a major urban area.
Terrorists with nukes risk millions of lives, not a few thousand.
Moreover, we're confronted by an enemy for whom "containment" is impossible. And "Mutually Assured Destruction" meaningless.
Given a nuke, they will use it. Sacrificing their own lives in the process. And without regard for the consequences their homeland might suffer.
If you're responsible for a nation's security and the lives of its citizens, the only responsible course in this case is to employ pre-emptive war whenever the risk seems to be growing into a short odds proposition.
Prior to 9/11/01, you were dead right. Now, I believe you need to re-evaluate your position.
I agree with you tex..
See in the belly of the Beast. They will kill Christians thinking that they are doing God a Favor. Until they see that (as you have done to them you have done to me) Jesus Christ the one that they have pierced. There’s line being drawn between eternal life and death. Many Christians will die. But the ones who He uses to kill them will be eternally lost.
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