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To: jay1949
Its not going to go anywhere. Obama may be a naturalized citizen but it wouldn't matter. A Democratic Congress is not going to overturn an election result to abide by the Constitution. And the U.S Supreme Court has no desire to risk another political firestorm by overturning an election on constitutional grounds.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/28/2008 1:03:43 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Obama can’t be a naturalized citizen, because he has never gone through the naturalization process. He’s either a (natural born) citizen or he’s not a citizen at all.


9 posted on 11/28/2008 1:09:34 PM PST by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: goldstategop

You’re right. Obama can get away with this, no problem. Water off a ducks back. he got the job based on skin color. If he’s critized as President, he’ll use skin color as a defense.


10 posted on 11/28/2008 1:11:41 PM PST by Longtom
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To: goldstategop

I agree it isn’t going to go anywhere.

At this late stage, is is silly to think otherwise.

But I DO think this requirement is IMPORTANT, and I think our country has DELIBERATELY shot itself in the foot on this.

Apart from having a racist, socialist, marxist running our country for the first time, this makes the requirement null and void.


14 posted on 11/28/2008 1:13:44 PM PST by rlmorel ("A barrel of monkeys is not fun. In fact, a barrel of monkeys can be quite terrifying!")
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To: goldstategop
“And the U.S Supreme Court has no desire to risk another political firestorm by overturning an election on constitutional grounds.”

I belive that on December 5th many Americans will be surprised when they hear that more than 4 Supreme Court Justices voted to fully hear the Leo Donofrio case.

I also believe that then and only then will the MSM mention anything about the cases before the USSC or before any other court across the country.

Without our Constitution being upheld, this country as we know it will be gone forever. The nine Honorable Supreme Court Justices know that and will uphold the Constitution.

17 posted on 11/28/2008 1:14:57 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: goldstategop
"U.S Supreme Court has no desire to risk another political firestorm by overturning an election"

When has the US Supreme Court overturned an election?


18 posted on 11/28/2008 1:14:59 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: goldstategop

What election are you referring to?


20 posted on 11/28/2008 1:17:11 PM PST by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: goldstategop

“Its not going to go anywhere. “

Very little is certain, not even your pronouncement of failure. All nations are governed by laws or the fiat of tyrants. Free people are constantly forced to defend that freedom, this is one of those times. We have people who are charged with the responsibly of representing us and safeguarding our freedoms. There is an obvious remedy if they fail (at some point a political remedy will not be possible), will you be part of that remedy?


25 posted on 11/28/2008 1:21:03 PM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: goldstategop

I agree that it’s going nowhere, but if evidence surfaced that Obama was not a natural born citizen all it would take to promote a full blown crisis is one GI refusing to follow a deployment order on the grounds that it was unlawful. That kind of isssue would have to be dealt with and since it, in the end, would involve the liberty of the soldier in question it would have to be decided by SCOTUS and the manner in which the case was framed would take it out of the purely political and into the arena of law and the Constitution.


29 posted on 11/28/2008 1:26:58 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: goldstategop
And the U.S Supreme Court has no desire to risk another political firestorm by overturning an election on constitutional grounds.

Another?

When did they do another?

53 posted on 11/28/2008 1:58:17 PM PST by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: goldstategop

No matter the outcome of the law suits, his Presidency will forever be a taint on this Nation. A selected president who had so little faith in the people of this nation that his entire life has been a secret and a lie. A nation where the news media has failed their duty to act as a source of information and scrutiny for every candidate. The stain on our Constitution may be so great that it may not even be washed away with the blood of patriots and Tyrants as Jefferson had envisioned. The fact that this must be litigated is a very sad time for this nation.


54 posted on 11/28/2008 1:58:29 PM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: goldstategop
The Supreme Court did not "overturn" an election in 2000; it confirmed one by upholding the clear language of the Constitution. You might want to read how the Supreme Court upheld the Constitution when the Florida Supreme Court tried to defy it; the Supreme Court did not overturn an election.
70 posted on 11/28/2008 2:20:56 PM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: goldstategop
"A Democratic Congress is not going to overturn an election result to abide by the Constitution. And the U.S Supreme Court has no desire to risk another political firestorm by overturning an election on constitutional grounds."

So what do we do about it then? Sit back and take it like a bunch of spineless sheep, or make our Founding Fathers proud?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

95 posted on 11/28/2008 2:45:57 PM PST by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: goldstategop

“And the U.S Supreme Court has no desire to risk another political firestorm by overturning an election on constitutional grounds.”

Do you realize the political chaos that will result if this isn’t resolved now, in the right way? Obama’s authority as president (and the credibility of the Democrat party) will be in serious doubt, across the nation and throughout the world.


108 posted on 11/28/2008 3:21:19 PM PST by reasonisfaith (In lying to me, Mr. government official, you have granted me moral authority over you.)
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To: goldstategop

This issue is not going away until “We The People” get to see the court ordered “Vault Birth Certificate” and all other relevant files related to his birth/birth place/name/name changes/adoptions/citizenship status.

Some seem to think this question is a game of politics. It is not. This is so fundamentally serious that the very survival of our nation is at stake over this issue. Obama’s eligibility absolutely most be determined. Either he is eligible or he is a usurper. A precedent must NOT be set by a usurper. Period.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82033

Orders from new president to spark lawsuit every time
Lawyer lining up plaintiff groups until citizenship dispute addressed

Excerpt By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

A lawyer who is playing a key role in a California lawsuit urging officials to prevent the state’s 55 Electoral College votes from being recorded for Barack Obama
until questions about his citizenship are resolved says he’s organizing plans to challenge, even after the inauguration, every order, every proposal, every piece of paperwork generated by Obama.

“We will file lawsuits on his actions, every time. As long as we have money , we will keep filing lawsuits until we get a decision as to his citizenship status,” Gary Kreep, chief of the United States Justice Foundation, told WND today.


144 posted on 11/28/2008 4:53:50 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: goldstategop

Also, the 9 won’t touch it for separation of powers issues. Ith there were one less conservative they would, but not as currentlsy constituted.


169 posted on 11/28/2008 6:34:10 PM PST by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: goldstategop

U.S Supreme Court has no desire to risk another political firestorm by overturning an election on constitutional grounds.
***That’s their job. It’s also why they’re appointed for life, so they don’t have to worry about losing their job when they uphold the constitution. But you are right: they have no desire. So the most likely outcome will be some split-the-baby decision that makes them feel like they upheld the constitution and Obama still gets to be president. My expectation is that they will instruct the Electoral College that there are truly constitutional questions about the eligibility of Obama and that this should be taken into consideration when they cast their vote, sorta like jury instructions from a judge. So when the EC votes for Obama, the Supremes can say they did their job and the EC didn’t do theirs.


202 posted on 11/29/2008 1:54:25 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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