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Worker dies at Long Island Wal-Mart after being trampled in Black Friday stampede
nydailynews.com ^ | Friday, November 28th 2008, 9:30 AM | JOE GOULD

Posted on 11/28/2008 7:02:13 AM PST by GQuagmire

A worker died after being trampled and a woman miscarried when hundreds of shoppers smashed through the doors of a Long Island Wal-Mart Friday morning, witnesses said.

The unidentified worker, employed as an overnight stock clerk, tried to hold back the unruly crowds just after the Valley Stream store opened at 5 a.m.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: barbarians; blackfriday; greed; itsjustasalefolks; moralabsolutes; retail; sin; urbansavages
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To: panthermom

OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


221 posted on 11/28/2008 11:37:05 AM PST by Gabz (Is a sarcasm tag really needed?)
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To: LucyJo

I really hated being dragged to stores on Black Friday. I guess that explains not only my avoidance of it now, but my basic dislike of shopping in general.


222 posted on 11/28/2008 11:38:58 AM PST by Gabz (Is a sarcasm tag really needed?)
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To: Gabz

I can understand why! It’s bad enough seen through the eyes of an adult. I can only imagine it from a child’s perspective!


223 posted on 11/28/2008 11:48:07 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: GQuagmire

This is a terrible thing, both for its happening, and for the fact that it is nothing new. Large crowds need crowd control, end of story. The Who concert in Cincy back in 1979 should have driven that point home.

The people who trampled this poor man are responsible for his death, and I hope (but am not holding my breath) that there will be arrests and prosecutions of those involved.

IMHO, though, Wal-Mart also deserves some blame for creating an unsafe situation in the first place. For a store of that size, with an event like Black Friday, having extra security on hand or other procedures in place to ensure safety is (or should be) the cost of doing business.

Prayers for the friends and family of this poor guy.


224 posted on 11/28/2008 12:07:09 PM PST by DemforBush (Millions of conservatives have got your back, Sarah!)
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To: GQuagmire

The video shows customers remarking on the EMT not using mouth-to-mouth during CPR. “He don’t wanna touch his mouth”. Video seems to confirm this. Proper procedure?


225 posted on 11/28/2008 12:34:20 PM PST by montag813 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: ken21

“that’s what happens in times of economic peril.”

well then our country must have been in economic peril every single year, because this kind of thing happens every year.. this is what happens when people are stupid, greedy, and forget the true meaning of Christmas.


226 posted on 11/28/2008 12:40:42 PM PST by Awestruck (Now if we can only get the rest of the "republican" leaders to stand up to the liberals.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“Animals kill their young? No.

Only people do.”

wow.. you’ve never owned rodents, dogs, or cats..have ya? lots of animals kill (and eat) their young.. both domestic and in the wild.


227 posted on 11/28/2008 12:45:20 PM PST by Awestruck (Now if we can only get the rest of the "republican" leaders to stand up to the liberals.)
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To: netmilsmom
God bless you. There are a zillion opportunities to teach lessons to our children that they will draw back on when they are raising their own children.

The title of Daddy is the most important to me. I am very serious about it. Children are a blessing from God
228 posted on 11/28/2008 12:55:17 PM PST by ScoochDude
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To: DemforBush
The real story is: after a few years of stampeding customers, why didn't WalMart set up a more secure crowd control system and let the folks trickle in through a strong check point.

I have been in crowds like this before like general admission for the USC-Notre Dame game and seen kids fall etc.

It doesn't take an Einstien to see that they were totally unprepared even to the point of building integrity.

229 posted on 11/28/2008 12:58:15 PM PST by nufsed
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To: Krankor

I work for Wal-Mart and I don’t find this funny at all.


231 posted on 11/28/2008 1:00:06 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Red in Blue PA

Animals kill their young all the time. They don’t have abortions, but wait until they’re born and then kill them.


232 posted on 11/28/2008 1:05:40 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: nufsed
I have been in crowds like this before like general admission for the USC-Notre Dame game and seen kids fall etc.

USC/Notre Dame tickets are $75 for general admission. At that price, they can afford a lot of security. I don't think that WalMart or any other respectable retailer needs to start charging admission to their store.

I wouldn't be too quick to blame WalMart for this - WalMart didn't rush the store like a gang of hooligans, the perpetrators did. It's the thugs that caused this, not WalMart. The thug's lawyers might be interested in blaming WalMart for this, but the reality is that the store is not at fault any more than a murder victim or a gun manufacturer is at fault if somebody commits murder with one.

234 posted on 11/28/2008 1:09:19 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: meyer
I always laugh when someone discounts another persons personal experience.

What difference does the price make. These people were going to spend hundreds at WalMart. This was 1964 and hundreds of people were funneled through a two foot wide gate. Kids were knocked down and everyone was yelling.

Tell me again how WalMart can't afford to create a more secure walk-in system for one day. That should be a good point in court.

They have had problems the last 5 years. So they had a responsibility to make it safer on their property.

If they didn't have the money, then they should have eliminated the bargains and discounts which caused hundreds of people to line up at the door, as they knew they would. That doesn't happen any other day.

Of course, the store was at fault. They are culpable for drawing the crowd, how the crowd lines up, and how it enters the store.

If someone wants to murder someone and you call them and tell them where the intended wictim is, of course you are guilty.

235 posted on 11/28/2008 1:18:26 PM PST by nufsed
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To: Kirkwood

Get a life. Don’t make me laugh. The bad parenting is giving the kids every thing they want without question in the first place!!! The other person who responded about it being the parents possessions is probably more right. If the house burned down or got broken into and everything was gone, the PARENTS insurance would replace everything, not the kids. You can’t have it both ways.


236 posted on 11/28/2008 1:24:55 PM PST by RetiredArmy (NOTE TO REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS: PLAY THE CONSERVATIVE CARD!!!)
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To: nufsed
Tell me again how WalMart can't afford to create a more secure walk-in system for one day. That should be a good point in court.

This is a flippin' retail store, for cryin' out loud. Civilized people, including myself, walk in and out of these establishments on a daily basis. At the WalMart here, it's open 24/7. This stuff just doesn't happen when normal people are involved.

There's no need for some type of expensive delaying scheme to stop this kind of thing. It's not WalMart's duty or anybody else's duty to control the behavior of free individuals. What's needed is that the perpetrators spend some time in jail for the murder of a store employee.

Trying to pass the blame on the innocent is the trademark of a trial lawyer.

237 posted on 11/28/2008 1:25:41 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: meyer
Have you ever been to a movie theatre on a normal day and then when they have some blockbuster playing.

The theatre knows when Spiderman is opening they will have a large early crowd. They set up special ticket booths, they have a designated roped off line, and they have employees work the line. In most big cities, they have security personnel.

Nobody's passing the blame. I'm identifying the culpability of a company who has had this sitauation before and was unprepared for it today and had an employee murdered, a baby miscarry, because they're exercising some capitalistic negligence, non-responsibility you are wrongfully shielding them with.

If you don't know how to secure the front of a store, to channel the people entering, just ask. It doesn't take a fortune to do it.

Your lack of knowledge doesn't provide cover for the stores gross negligence.

238 posted on 11/28/2008 1:35:22 PM PST by nufsed
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To: nufsed
Your lack of knowledge doesn't provide cover for the stores gross negligence.

So you are a trial lawyer. Pretty easy to spot really. Isn't a bit early to be drumming up business?

239 posted on 11/28/2008 1:41:08 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: Paved Paradise

You said that “One must always consider that [the] kinds of people that even come out for these things... a lot of them are the people who are VERY LOW SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS (thus, need the deals)and many are the greedy selfish types that will do anything to save a buck.”

So, I take it that you wouldn’t be caught dead shopping with the lowlife at Walmart? We should all strive to be gain your perceived elitist status. Lady, here’s a fact....everyone’s stinks, even yours.


240 posted on 11/28/2008 1:45:35 PM PST by panaxanax ("Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't." T.Jefferson)
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