Posted on 11/24/2008 6:48:48 PM PST by Drango
California officials are planning to investigate whether the Mormon church gave an accurate accounting of its role in the campaign that succeeded in getting a same-sex marriage ban approved in the state.
The action by the California Fair Political Practices Commission came in response to a complaint filed two weeks ago by a gay rights activist. Fred Karger, founder of Californians Against Hate, accuses the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints of failing to report the value of the work it did to support Proposition 8. Roman Porter, the agency's executive director, said Monday that the decision to open an investigation does not mean staff members have determined there was any wrongdoing, only that Karger's complaint merits further inquiry.
A representative from the Salt Lake City-based church could not be reached for comment.
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"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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The Family: A Proclamation to the World
The First Presidency and Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
September 23, 1995
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,161-1-11-1,00.html
To Liberals "hate" means disagreement with Liberalism. It's like when they say "hate speech" or "hate radio". So, in that sense, the group's name is honest. It is against anyone who disagrees with them. Homosexuals are all about euphemisms; "gay" actually means happy, "lesbian" is a person who resides on the Greek island of Lesbos, and the rainbow doesn't represents them.
Do Mormans believe in the right to bear arms? I sure hope they do.
I don’t agree with Mormon Theology, either, but I do like that heavily Mormon areas are low crime and conservative strong holds. Mitt would have made a good president. Much better than the fraud we are stuck with.
Dont take this as criticism but as commentary...but what does it say about the current state of Christendom when a non-orthodox christian group leads Christendom in a very public campaign?
The ONLY reason for such a list is for the gaystopo to launch a modern day kristallnacht against people of faith.
True.
Don’t what your post was about, but leave me off your ping list whatever it is.
It must be too early in the morning, I guess.
Especially the part where the "gestapo" comes and rounds you up and carts you off to the death camps!
It's baffling the way the mormon church thought that CA, of all places, was UT and they could practice their usual heavy-handed control over the state government without a pushback.
The LDS PR machine made a major misstep by jumping up front and center and taking the credit, and the gays aren't going to let them forget it...look for several years of law suits, and Joseph Smith and/or "persecuted blacks" (especially with Obama in office) movies, documentaries etc. coming out of Hollywood.
I'll be sitting back eating popcorn and laughing! So long to Mitt's chance of gaining the White House!
Wow! You were eavesdropping on all CA Evangelicals and Evangelical leaders? You monitored all Voters' Guides that went out from all CA Evangelical churches?
California has more Christians than any other state (not % wise -- that's actually pretty low; just sheer numbers). Believe me, had the Evangelicals remained "silent" as your audacity of deceit claims, then Prop 8 wouldn't have passed.
It took an effective coalition of Catholics, Mormons, Evangelicals, mainline Protestants, and, as we saw with the voting results, minority voters. Even the O-man "contributed" indirectly -- as his presence on the ballot drove up minority voter turnout, who in turn, tended to vote for Prop 8.
If you're going to make your "relatively silent" claim, then I would wager your evidential proof is likewise based upon an argument from silence.
OK, this kind of almost-cowering language is exactly what those folks want LDS to do...intimidate the LDS Church into silence on speaking out on moral/social issues the next time this comes down the pike. Don't do it. We're not talking about partisan candidates here. We're talking about moral/social issues and God has given every American the right to speak out on moral/social issues.
The LDS Church has few paid clergy... it is almost all volunteer...The workers/volunteers who did the work for Prop 8's passage, like those who donated $$, did so as private individuals who share a common private membership in a church which took a stand on this as a moral, social issue.
OK, point taken, but there's nothing wrong with Mormon leaders speaking out on moral/social issues -- no matter what the context. (They do it all the time)
...from the level of the local clergy up to (at least) the next level or two of the organizational structure, none of them get paid or work on "church time." One has to go pretty high up to find someone in the church (other than in seminaries or "unrelated" church-owned businesses) who is somehow on the payroll...
Well, while this is true salary wise, stipend reimbursement for many LDS "volunteer" bishops can be quite steep. (For one, for example, $40,000 in 1993 monetary terms). That's not to stay bishops don't incur expenses; they do. It's just that they seem to be well "compensated."
Sorry, but Salt Lake City has been a white-collar crime mecca for decades.
Wow, TC! Somebody doesn't even have to post anything, and you're "on" them bashing them as "bashers."
(Oh, and ya wanna explain why you have some special license to "bash" that otherwise would lump you in as one?)
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